Many thanks Xrocketman and Black Ghost.
Time hasn't permitted me to go much further with this today (and probably won't for a few days yet).
Black Ghost, when my last hand me down quit, my first reaction was to go for a new machine, however, a few months back my parents wanted a PC, they'd never had one, but had been attending classes. They say they'd been using Windows 10, so that was what I was sure to get them. Upon using and registering it for the first time and setting up (as best I could) a few things, it then took me over half an hour to work out how to shut it down. It was not at all straight forward and most user unfriendly I found, frankly, turned me cold.
Sorry if there was a misunderstanding somewhere, I don't have Vista but Windows 7 (both on the 'new' Laptop and in the office), having come from being a very happy XP user, the step over to this for the most part haven't found this too painful, other than most of my specialist software won't run under Windows 7
I'll let you know how I go from here - if you don't hear from me in a few days, it's likely I've committed harakiri.
Edited by Moke Spider, 15 May 2017 - 07:49 AM.