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[gavinhendy]

my mini died the other day and i have been endlessly trying to get her started with advice from mechanics but no joy at all . it just died whilst i was out in it the same night i baught it
after pushing it home i checked fuel was getting to the engine by taking out the spark plug after cranking , the plug was wet .
then i checked for a spack by holding the spark plug to the head and cranking the engine , there was no spark at the plug, anybody had this problem ?? heeeel me plz


cheers

gav

[bmcecosse]

Could be any number of things - you must go through it systematically. Is there any power at the coil ? Are there any loose/dropped off wires? Are the dizzy cap and/or HT leads soaking wet ? Inside the dizzy - check the points gap - consider fitting new points and condenser and new rotor arm. iF the dizzy cap doesn't look newish - change it too.

[The_Mistro]

you need to give your old topics BUMPS not keep starting new topics!

you need to check your ignition system! make sure theres no excessice wear on the parts, no cracks in the dizzy cap, the rotor arm is in good conditon!

what advice have the mechanics given you so far that you have tried and hasnt worked?

[gavinhendy]

Hey all , at end of month I will be buying the electronic module for sale on mm4x4 website , witch sites inside the dizzy ,, il be ordering a new rotor ARM , coil. And a haynes manual to see how to generaly clean up the engine and get her back to full running order , has anybody ever fitted this part ?

http://www.mm-4x4.co...-kit-2720-p.asp

Will I need anymore parts ?
Gav

[The_Mistro]

tell us what you have done and we may be able to get you some more pointers!!!!

have you taken the dizzy cap of yet and looked at the rotor arm? for all we know it could just be a snapped rotor arm! you need to tell us what you have actually done!

might save you a fair bit of money!

[darky32]

Would be handy to know what year you car is .....

[gavinhendy]

ive taken dizzy cap off and the 4 coppor bits inside look a bit corroded so im going to order a cap , rotor arm looks in good condition ,
and its a 1992 rover , city E , auto

tried holding plugs to head to check for spark and nothing ,

changed coil = nothing

tried adding another earth but still nothing

what next ???? anybody

gav

[The_Mistro]

have you tried a different lead from the coil to the centre of the dizzy cap?

[Brian422]

my mini died the other day and i have been endlessly trying to get her started with advice from mechanics but no joy at all . it just died whilst i was out in it the same night i baught it
after pushing it home i checked fuel was getting to the engine by taking out the spark plug after cranking , the plug was wet .
then i checked for a spack by holding the spark plug to the head and cranking the engine , there was no spark at the plug, anybody had this problem ?? heeeel me plz


cheers

gav

You have to decide whether the fault is in the low tension or high tension circuit.
If there's not enough battery charge to turn the engine follow instructions.
Turn the engine until the contact breaker points are closed.
Disconnect the coil HT lead from the distributor and hold the end approx 1/4 to 1/2 inch away from engine.
With the ignition turned on, use insulated screw driver to open the points.
If this produces a spark, providing the coil HT lead is o.k., the low tension side is working and you should investigate distributor cap, remaining HT leads, plugs and rotor arm. If no spark between coil HT lead and engine the problem is in the LT circuit; check coil supply voltage, feed wire to contact breaker points, contact breaker points, contact breaker point base plate earthing and condenser.
Alternatively, if there's enough battery charge to turn the engine, disconnect coil HT lead, hold lead as previously described and turn engine over. Results interpretation as previously mentioned.
Be careful when opening contact points and holding coil HT lead .... it bites.
Hope this helps.

[darky32]

Also worth check this...
I had the same fault as you have explained the other month on my 92 Sprint, no spark etc....
I checked over with a multimeter and found no voltage to the coil ...traced the wire back and found the connector on the ignition module on the side of the distributor had had water in there for some time and the connector/pins were all corroded.... renewed the module and repaired the harness pins and it was fine after that.
So that may be worth checking ......

Hope you get it sorted

[Big_Adam]

I had a problem where my old El Gordo would die for no reason.

Turned out the wire from coil to fuse box was utterly destroyed. Just replaced it with a nice chunky bit of wire, job done.

[gavinhendy]

dose anybody know what readings i should be getting from a multimeter at my coil ?? 1992 mini city e automatic, standard ignition coil ect .....

[Brian422]

dose anybody know what readings i should be getting from a multimeter at my coil ?? 1992 mini city e automatic, standard ignition coil ect .....

There should always be 12 volts on the switched supply side, when the ignition is on and either 12 volts (when the points are open) or 0volts (when they're closed) on the contact breaker side. Best check voltage on the contact breakers just incase wire from coil to distributor is open circuit.
Coil primary resistance should be approx 3 Ohms.

[clubby_1275gt]

i have exactly the same problem with my mini but its electronic ignition new arm and cap new leads new coil still nothing . well annoying me now . i get like 14/15 volts and the coil so im confused too

sorry im no help though

[gavinhendy]

just to let everuone know the mini is running again , fitted britparts electronic ignition module and staarted up first time ,
thanks to everyone for the help , gav