i wana delock and dehandle my doors.has anyone done this and how do u get the poppers to work.any advice an pics will be great
thanks

Door Poppers
Started by
ben88
, Mar 12 2009 06:22 PM
7 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 12 March 2009 - 06:22 PM
#2
Posted 12 March 2009 - 08:24 PM
I've done it on mine, and i love it...however, you must ask yourself how willing you are to have to break into you own car when it randomly stops working or you shut the keys in the ignition etc!!!
It's quite simple...but does take time, i designed and made up my own mechanism utilizing a linear actuator. It's the same type that is regularly used for central locking kits and boot poppers. Then with a relatively simple series of levers connected and pivoting with rivets it is possible to get that to actuate the lock. An understanding of how the lock works is advised!
Start by mounting the actuator in the bottom of the door facing the back edge and wire it (they are polar sensitive) so it pulls. You will spend a great deal of time getting the actuator to 'return' to such a position that engages the clasp again in the lock. You will find that you can get it to open quite simply, but then when you shut the door again, it will bounce back open as the clasp hasn't engaged.
This is where careful planning and bit of trial and error will occur with regards to the pivoting ratios to gain the correct throw that will achieve an opening of the door and returning of the mechanism to the closed position.
Not sure how helpful this is, but with a pencil and paper (possibly a calculator too...!) it's not too difficult to conceive a working design.
Good luck!
PS, if you've got more questions then feel free to ask!

It's quite simple...but does take time, i designed and made up my own mechanism utilizing a linear actuator. It's the same type that is regularly used for central locking kits and boot poppers. Then with a relatively simple series of levers connected and pivoting with rivets it is possible to get that to actuate the lock. An understanding of how the lock works is advised!
Start by mounting the actuator in the bottom of the door facing the back edge and wire it (they are polar sensitive) so it pulls. You will spend a great deal of time getting the actuator to 'return' to such a position that engages the clasp again in the lock. You will find that you can get it to open quite simply, but then when you shut the door again, it will bounce back open as the clasp hasn't engaged.
This is where careful planning and bit of trial and error will occur with regards to the pivoting ratios to gain the correct throw that will achieve an opening of the door and returning of the mechanism to the closed position.
Not sure how helpful this is, but with a pencil and paper (possibly a calculator too...!) it's not too difficult to conceive a working design.
Good luck!
PS, if you've got more questions then feel free to ask!

#3
Posted 12 March 2009 - 08:26 PM
Not gonna lie to you, reading that back i'd be surprised if that doesn't confuse you even more!!! Sorry about the terrible grammar!

#4
Posted 12 March 2009 - 08:28 PM
thanks for that very intresting stuff..not started doing anything as im still looking for a clubby estate..its gona be special project..hopefully ready for IMM.
#5
Posted 12 March 2009 - 08:41 PM
Good luck matey! If you've got any more questions nearer the time then gimme a shout!
#6
Posted 12 March 2009 - 09:02 PM
There is a guy at college with a Euro look Polo, he has poppers on his car, and yes its done in the same way ask MagicBunny has done his. With actuators and what not.
Tis very impressive.
although this post was no point at all I thought I'd say anyways
Tis very impressive.
although this post was no point at all I thought I'd say anyways


#7
Posted 13 March 2009 - 08:28 PM
i looked into it alittle, may be worth searching for my topic, i may still do it some day. what i found out is that you are required by law to have some kind of way to get into the car from the outside so would require you to have a button outside somewhere such as under wing mirror tvr style. i looked at using solenoids but the ones i could find on ebay and other places where all for boots so ment they may struggle to open a door and fail or not have a long life, just causeing you hassle some where down the line. i found ones in america but they where all pritty expensive.
#8
Posted 13 March 2009 - 10:22 PM
Altho i also heard that you are required to have a way of getting in from the outside, i've never had an issue with it...and i've got my car through MoT's without. The way i wired mine means that the door opens automatically when the engine is turned off, so in the event of a crash etc and the engine stalls then the door would open.
As for component failure, it's an issue you will have to consider. Literally this week my driver door actuator failed, so it does happen...but it has been in the car for over a year now, and only took me half an hour to replace.
The boot actuators that you speak of are perfectly capable of handling the task. There are 75lb solenoids etc available which are really hardcore, but in my experience, they are a little over-kill! A mate of mine uses them on his Hot Rod with suicide doors so i've seen them in action.
Anyways, there are definite pro's & con's with this mod, so you do need to think about it before you commit....! (I've done it on 2 minis now, and both times welded up a pair of brand new doors...!)
As for component failure, it's an issue you will have to consider. Literally this week my driver door actuator failed, so it does happen...but it has been in the car for over a year now, and only took me half an hour to replace.
The boot actuators that you speak of are perfectly capable of handling the task. There are 75lb solenoids etc available which are really hardcore, but in my experience, they are a little over-kill! A mate of mine uses them on his Hot Rod with suicide doors so i've seen them in action.
Anyways, there are definite pro's & con's with this mod, so you do need to think about it before you commit....! (I've done it on 2 minis now, and both times welded up a pair of brand new doors...!)
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