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[Joloke08]

Hi
ive recently changed the oil on Boris but im not 100% theres still enough oil in there?

Though hes driving much better its been suggested he may be low on oil as hes still slipping but only in one set of circumstances and thats going around sharp corners and roundabouts etc

Somebody suggested that there may not be enough oil in the engine/transmission?

Being my first Oil Change ever i figured if i measured what came out in dirty oil if i replaced it with the same amount in clean new oil i wouldnt overfill

Thing is i only got just shy of 4.5 litres out and the manual suggests just over 5 litres im scared of putting too much oil in but on the other hand if theres not enough?

How do you read the dipstick on the automatic?
Ive heard that you cant read it cold as you get a woefully inadequate reading,so i was told run the engine to warm the oil turn off and take a dipstick reading then?

If i do that it tends to show full but after whiping it it shows either full or min depending on how quickly i get the dipstick out whiped back in and out again :roll:

If anybody else has an auto when do you read your oil level and how much oil do you tend to get out and replace at an Oilchange?

If i have to top up after a dipstick reading at cold then i figure i still need half a litre , i just need to know the right way/time to take the reading will let me know if i need to top up or not?

Any advice you can give me will really help

Huggz
Jodie

[MRA]

still slipping going round corners......... how tight and how fast are you driving... i.e. are you driving "normally" as opposed to fast ?

The cases are totally differnet to the manual, and unless you have an early auto you shouldn't have the "cornering" issue. From memory the cases changed to sort this issue, however I don't know how much better the later cases where.

Even a little low on oil shouldn't cause the slipping, however it does suggest a loss of oil pressure as your likely cause.... as a band is releasing, this maybe caused by a sticky governor (no not your boss)

Try driving at the same speed, corner etc, but using the stick in the gear instead of in "auto"..... ie. if you are driving at a speed which will be ok in 1st, 2nd or 3rd then use that gear to see if you still have loss of drive........

Automatic faults can be a little hard to diagnose, sometimes you really need to put pressure gauges in certain places to determine a fault cause.

Another idea,,, what condition are your engine mounts in ?? as this may have an adverse effect on the "kick down" cable ?

Any auto fault can become expensive to correct, if you have to drive Boris then drive very carefully.

[Joloke08]

still slipping going round corners......... how tight and how fast are you driving... i.e. are you driving "normally" as opposed to fast ?

The cases are totally differnet to the manual, and unless you have an early auto you shouldn't have the "cornering" issue. From memory the cases changed to sort this issue, however I don't know how much better the later cases where.

Even a little low on oil shouldn't cause the slipping, however it does suggest a loss of oil pressure as your likely cause.... as a band is releasing, this maybe caused by a sticky governor (no not your boss)

Try driving at the same speed, corner etc, but using the stick in the gear instead of in "auto"..... ie. if you are driving at a speed which will be ok in 1st, 2nd or 3rd then use that gear to see if you still have loss of drive........

Automatic faults can be a little hard to diagnose, sometimes you really need to put pressure gauges in certain places to determine a fault cause.

Another idea,,, what condition are your engine mounts in ?? as this may have an adverse effect on the "kick down" cable ?

Any auto fault can become expensive to correct, if you have to drive Boris then drive very carefully.

Boris is a 1995 so its probably as late as your gunna get
Point taken about the slipping we do plan on getting the box fully rebuilt i guess my main question is do i have the correct ammount of oil following the oil change?

So its over to somebody whos got an Auto
Somerford mini suggests you check your oil while engine is still hot but i get all sorts of different readings

I just want to make sure i have enough oil and on the other hand dont want to overfill it
I know theres an oil pressure return valve so that the the torque convertor doesnt start dry but it says that 4 pints are held by the return valve(roughly 2 litres) and 9 pints(Roughly 5 litres) nomimally held in the engine/transmission but i only got 4.5 litres out and only replaced the same

All i want to know is how others with autos check their oil?
hot or cold?
And how they read wether or not they need extra oil?

One bit of advice says read it hot,another cold and i no longer know what im supposed to believe?
Help!!!!!!

Huggz
Jodie

[Joloke08]

Bump anybody else whos online now

Huggz
Jodie

[tog77]

check all automatics with a warm engine and engine running...it should be dead on the full mark..don't over fill it....

tog77...

[JohnDoe]

For mini's with manual shifts, check the oil level when the engine is cool.

For mini's with manual shifts, check the oil level after the engine is running two minutes.

Edited by JohnDoe, 15 April 2009 - 10:20 PM.

[Joloke08]

Anybody else? i keep getting different instructions from everybody no wonder im confused

[kez_19]

i have been taught that with an auto box the way to check the oil is to start the engine and depress the foot brake and then put the car in each gear in turn starting with park then work your way down the register and the back up again staying in each gear for 2-3 seconds then back to park. Now switch off the engine and you can now check the oil level and fill it up usually through the dipstick hole unless there is a fill up hole somewhere.

this is how i have learnt to fill up auto box's and is how i do mine on my Chrysler voyager

hope this helps

michael

[mrslaphead]

i have been taught that with an auto box the way to check the oil is to start the engine and depress the foot brake and then put the car in each gear in turn starting with park then work your way down the register and the back up again staying in each gear for 2-3 seconds then back to park. Now switch off the engine and you can now check the oil level and fill it up usually through the dipstick hole unless there is a fill up hole somewhere.

this is how i have learnt to fill up auto box's and is how i do mine on my Chrysler voyager

hope this helps

michael

Thats normal for cars with seperate gearbox and engines, so you are only checking transmission fluid.
I dont think its applicable for the mini box which shares its oil with the engine.

[MRA]

Boris will have only let you have 4.5l simply because there is a whole load of valves etc..... and convertor that simply will NOT drain until you strip it all down.

The book says 9 pints including filter

[MRA]

make sure vehicle is on a level surface
run the engine for 1 to 2 mins
stop and wait for 1 min
then check the dipstick

[kez_19]

i have been taught that with an auto box the way to check the oil is to start the engine and depress the foot brake and then put the car in each gear in turn starting with park then work your way down the register and the back up again staying in each gear for 2-3 seconds then back to park. Now switch off the engine and you can now check the oil level and fill it up usually through the dipstick hole unless there is a fill up hole somewhere.

this is how i have learnt to fill up auto box's and is how i do mine on my Chrysler voyager

hope this helps

michael

Thats normal for cars with seperate gearbox and engines, so you are only checking transmission fluid.
I dont think its applicable for the mini box which shares its oil with the engine.

that makes total sense i never thought about that

thanks

michael

[Joloke08]

Thanx Guyz but im still non the wiser nobody seems to know for definate
Everybody you talk to gives you a different answer

Its a shame if it is the case you check it when warm that rover didnt just measure the normal ammount in the gearbox casing when cold and calibrate the dipstick for that

Does anybody know the definitive answer?

Huggz
Jodie

[MRA]

Yep

The book says 9 pints including filter

To check the level in your automatic transmission follow the info below..............

1) make sure vehicle is on a level surface

2) run the engine for 1 to 2 mins

3) stop and wait for 1 min

4) then check the dipstick

This is information straight from 3 different Austin / Rover workshop manuals.......

[Joloke08]

Yep

The book says 9 pints including filter

To check the level in your automatic transmission follow the info below..............

1) make sure vehicle is on a level surface

2) run the engine for 1 to 2 mins

3) stop and wait for 1 min

4) then check the dipstick

This is information straight from 3 different Austin / Rover workshop manuals.......

Thanx
Sorry to be a pest but it is a bit oddball how you hafta check oil on autos i was begining to think i had to stand on one leg too and do a funny handshake

Hey do you know where i can get hold of a genuine workshop manual for our car as i do want to learn
Its got to cover Single Point Injections and allthough ill never rebuild the gearbox myself id like a full rebuild manual for the autobox too so i can clue myself up so the transmission specialists cant do one over on me

ive tried to get a genuine one before and the only ones around seem to be either for 60,s 70,s minis or MPI,s so do you know how i can get a hold of a SPI one that covers the Auto too?

Thanks for all your help advice too ill nip out in a minute and check his oil the way you say

Huggz
Jodie