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#1 minkus

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 09:47 PM

Hi guys im sure this has been covered a hundred times already but couldn't really see anything!

i'm running a 92 cooper 1.3i and am wondering what are the main differences between 10" to 12" wheels.

The inner arches are already cut and its got a Copper SPi kit on it so the arches are already pretty wide, so im not worried about fitting issues more about driving difference.

Also do I need a certain size to get over the front discs or would 10's fit?

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 09:52 PM

10s give better handling from what ive heard as do 12s which also give good handling.

10 inch alloys will require 7.5 discs on the front to allow them to fit then will need spacers on the rear drums to avoid rubbing on radius arm.

12s will fit over 8.4" discs

afraid thats all i know

what size alloys are you currently running? is it 13s as you said the arches are pretty wide?

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 09:57 PM

Well i havent had her long, so at moment its got 12 x 5 on so they look half way under the car :D( , im not sure what discs size im on ill have to get the tape out!!

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 10:02 PM

hmm they should be 8.4 discs as 12s seem to have been the standard fitting

brake conversion kit from 8.4" dwn to to 7.5" is bit pricey but im sure the bits could be bought separately which may work out cheaper

i plan on going down to 10s when the money allows it to

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 10:10 PM

Cheers for the help Shorty, ill see what i can do then. I might just get some 12x6 for the time being seeing how ive got Piston ring issues to sort out first!!

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 10:15 PM

i have a hole in the floor issue to sort out before i go spending anymore money..

no doubt other people will be along to give more useful info though :)

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 10:34 PM

ive just changed to 10" and im never gogin back so much better. minispares do a conversion kit £250 and you get everythign apart form brake pipes.

and ive never hear dof spacing teh rear out to stop rubbing mine are fien and im using weller sports 10x6

i woudl down size gibve teh car a retro look and your handlign wuill be alot better you wont be tramm linign on teh roads any more ahaha

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 10:40 PM

Same as above really,
98 MPI did the whole conversion.. took ALOT of effort and money to get where i am now but it is so worth it!

10's accel better and handle alot nicer IMO!

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 08:23 PM

In theory, 12 wheels will handle the best, Because they give a low profile tyre, without being too low like on 13's, and they are also not so wide that they dont get enough heat into them.
10's have a larger tyre wall which will increase roll in the corners and give a gernally softer ride, and are more likly to lead to un even wear on the tyres.

This is a generaliseation and i am not saying that the tyre on ten inch wheels do wear unevenly, just that they are more likly to, especially under hard cornering.


I am going for 12inch wheels, unless i can find some 10x6 wellers for a decent price, just because i like the look of them.
Guess im lucky since i already have 7.5 inch disc's and calipers :thumbsup:


Hope this helps

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 08:33 PM

though 10's are lighter than 12's, which does affect the way it handles. and the fact that mini suspension was designed for 10's originally. to be honest, i dont really notice a great deal of difference between a mini on 10 inch wheels and a mini on 12 inch wheels except for the ride being slightly harsher on 12 inch wheels.

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 09:59 PM

In theory, 12 wheels will handle the best, Because they give a low profile tyre, without being too low like on 13's, and they are also not so wide that they dont get enough heat into them.
10's have a larger tyre wall which will increase roll in the corners and give a gernally softer ride, and are more likly to lead to un even wear on the tyres.


I actually found my 10's gave a worse ride and little bumps such as cats eyes were more noticable... anyonce else found this??

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 10:05 PM

In theory, 12 wheels will handle the best, Because they give a low profile tyre, without being too low like on 13's, and they are also not so wide that they dont get enough heat into them.
10's have a larger tyre wall which will increase roll in the corners and give a gernally softer ride, and are more likly to lead to un even wear on the tyres.


I actually found my 10's gave a worse ride and little bumps such as cats eyes were more noticable... anyonce else found this??



I'd have to say that I'd disagree with pretty much everything Burnard said.

12's give a much better ride than 10's

10's handle much better and look cooler!!!

Never been a fan of 13's.

For a weekend toy its 10's all the way, for a driver its 12's

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 10:05 PM

I actually found my 10's gave a worse ride and little bumps such as cats eyes were more noticable... anyonce else found this??


I think that's more bound to high(er) offsets, resp. increased positive scrub radius... :(

-> http://en.wikipedia....ki/Scrub_radius / http://www.miata.net/garage/offset.htm

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Posted 27 June 2009 - 12:32 AM

In theory, 12 wheels will handle the best, Because they give a low profile tyre, without being too low like on 13's, and they are also not so wide that they dont get enough heat into them.
10's have a larger tyre wall which will increase roll in the corners and give a gernally softer ride, and are more likly to lead to un even wear on the tyres.


I actually found my 10's gave a worse ride and little bumps such as cats eyes were more noticable... anyonce else found this??



I'd have to say that I'd disagree with pretty much everything Burnard said.

12's give a much better ride than 10's

10's handle much better and look cooler!!!

Never been a fan of 13's.

For a weekend toy its 10's all the way, for a driver its 12's


Dont want to start an argument, but shouldnt that be the other way round?

Unless you mean 'driver' asin long distance every day car.
Surely a driver who likes a car that handels would then prefer 10's?


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Posted 27 June 2009 - 08:26 AM

In theory, 12 wheels will handle the best, Because they give a low profile tyre, without being too low like on 13's, and they are also not so wide that they dont get enough heat into them.
10's have a larger tyre wall which will increase roll in the corners and give a gernally softer ride, and are more likly to lead to un even wear on the tyres.


I actually found my 10's gave a worse ride and little bumps such as cats eyes were more noticable... anyonce else found this??



I'd have to say that I'd disagree with pretty much everything Burnard said.

12's give a much better ride than 10's

10's handle much better and look cooler!!!

Never been a fan of 13's.

For a weekend toy its 10's all the way, for a driver its 12's


Dont want to start an argument, but shouldnt that be the other way round?

Unless you mean 'driver' asin long distance every day car.
Surely a driver who likes a car that handels would then prefer 10's?


Chris



Yup, I mean driver as in a daily driver.




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