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#1 n00b

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 08:57 PM

Model: City E
Year: '85
Description of problem (please be as in depth as possible): i am troubled as to what needle i should be advised to purchase for the mini. the local garage (deals alot with a series engines) advised me that after installing a 3branch manifold, straight through to an rc 40 exhaust system and a k&N filter would need a new needle to suit. Curently the HS4 carb is using an AAU, and have been told that a 'richer' needle would help with the following problems i have been encountering;

dead spot when driving in low - mid revs

lack of power or a decrease as to what it used to have

I have recently installed all new electrical components that are changable, and have had the timing and fuel mixture set accordingly.

The engine will rev fairly well without too much of a struggle to climb revs when on the drive, but the problem is hightened when under load / driving. i have also found that holding the choke when driving eliminates the problem completely. i have had the mixture set between 3 - 6 % CO2 /CO to see if it helps but the problem persists.

If any a series petrol heads out there have any suggestions to what needle would suit a 998cc non a+ with a K&N with rc40 on a standard 998 HS carb plaase help shine some light onto my subject :lol: . From what research i have gathered would a AAM needle be adaquite?

ERic



Any non-standard parts that might be involved with the problem?

#2 lrostoke

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 09:00 PM

Either AAM or AAA , both very similar profile.

Then set your CO at tickover to 2.5 - 3%

Just out of interest, you say 998 non A + ?? as it had an engine swap, 1985 should be A plus

Edited by lrostoke, 07 July 2009 - 09:02 PM.


#3 n00b

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 09:23 PM

thats the original plan to :)

yes as you stated correctly it was originally an a+, untill the crankshaft snapped due to badly worn main bearings :lol:

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 09:37 PM

I have tried looking for an AAA / AAM needle on minispares and had no luck,, the only needles with that code AAA / AAM are for the 'swinging' type and mine seems to be a fixed, but the current fitted needle thats in the carb atm reads AAU which is only available for the swinging type only :D is this just minispares being awkward or am i just my name? any help would be great!

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 09:42 PM

I have tried looking for an AAA / AAM needle on minispares and had no luck,, the only needles with that code AAA / AAM are for the 'swinging' type and mine seems to be a fixed, but the current fitted needle thats in the carb atm reads AAU which is only available for the swinging type only :D is this just minispares being awkward or am i just my name? any help would be great!


Im not sure why its called a swinging type lol but the AAA needle on minispares is the 1 I bought:

http://www.minispare.....SWINGING TYPE

:) I would suggest an AAA

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 09:51 PM

Definitely - get the AAA - it's same type as your AAU, but quite a bit 'richer'. Burlen for SU parts. http://www.burlen.co.uk/
But AAA is just a starting point - although likely to be very close, you may be able to improve on it in time - but try that one first!

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 11:51 PM

As if by magic:

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As you can see, the AAA needle is slightly richer though the midrange and you can see the OEM ADE needle is useless for better gas flow lol

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 07:36 AM

Nice little graph there m1tch! Do you have a template that allows easy comparison of different needles ?

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 08:33 AM

Nice little graph there m1tch! Do you have a template that allows easy comparison of different needles ?


I used the Minty SU needle compare-o-rama lol Perhaps I should save a graph showing ADE, AAU, AAM, AAA and AAV as these seem to be the most common needles for 'stage 1 kit'/aftermarket

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 08:40 AM

Nice little graph there m1tch! Do you have a template that allows easy comparison of different needles ?


There you go: http://www.mintylamb.co.uk/suneedle/
Loads better, more more precise than winsu stuff.

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 11:45 PM

wow that graph pretty much somes it all up, i will be looking into AAA for starters then. hopefully tommorow il get the needle out of the carb n have a proper look at it and order the right one, thank you all for your help guys!

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 07:51 PM

I know this is an old topis but my Mini is the the same bar mine has a 12g295 head fitted. I am getting the same problems as described, the mini been flat underload/accelerating. Would an AAA needle be any good for me to try out.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 08:41 PM

I just had a thought, popped out the garage and I have a new HIF38 and in it was a AAM needle so guess where thats going tomorow.




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