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#1 markf

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Posted 07 August 2009 - 05:48 PM

is there any one out there that can offer me some practicle advice, regarding water ingress in my recently purchased mini.


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Posted 07 August 2009 - 05:59 PM

when i bought my mini the water was comming in the door stay holes.
the water was running down the frame of the door, hitting the door stay and running inside the car.
other than that all i can say is good luck im afraid.
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Posted 07 August 2009 - 06:00 PM

any more info, such as where in your mini?
pics would help....

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Posted 07 August 2009 - 06:01 PM

right bear with me, i'll add some pictures

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Posted 07 August 2009 - 06:16 PM

not sure if this will workAttached File  DSC00288.JPG   52.1K   13 downloadsAttached File  DSC00287_2.JPG   55.75K   14 downloads


these are of the drivers footwell, as door would be to the right in first pic and top in the second

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Posted 07 August 2009 - 07:57 PM

Looks like that rusty hole in the inner sill isn't helping, more than likely if you give it a poke it will turn into a big hole :)

I would get it patched.

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Posted 07 August 2009 - 09:04 PM

Absolutely normal to have wet carpets in an older Mini - take them out and dry them - then store them. That sill looks rotten - you can be sure there will be much worse rust above - behind the 'fresh air' vents.
I assume this is a 'project' ?

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 06:43 AM

There are 3 things I tend to look at when experiencing water in the front footwells:

1. On Mini doors with winders there is a clip-on trim both sides of the glass with a strip of rubber attached, angled at the glass. This allows water to run down the glass and then down the outer door skin and not into the door itself. With age this rubber hardens and moves away from the glass allowing water to ingress and work its way into the inside of the door. When this happens the water should flow out the bottom of the door through some holes, but with time these holes become blocked with dirt and rust flakes, so the water comes through the door and out under the door card. Replace the outer trim+rubber and poke the drainage holes with a small screwdriver to clear the blockage. For extra protection add a waterproof membrane to the inside of your door under your door card. This link tells you how I did that fairly cheaply using plastic sheeting from B&Q - Waterproofing Mini doors

2. Check that the door is on properly and tight against the door seal. Also check that the door seal is not worn or damaged and meets at the bottom. Open the door and pull up the seal to check that the inner and outer sill lips that the seal sits on are not seperated, rusted or rotten. If they are, repairing them is straight forward as shown here - Door seal sill repair

3. Check the front windscreeen rubber seal, especially where both ends meet, for any wear, seperation or lack of sealant. If water is getting past the seal you'll notice it in heavy rain as water drips down the parcel shelf making the shelf wet, and down the interior side of the bulkhead wetting your feet or your passengers. Repair/replace any seals and inspect the surrounding metal for any rust holes and make repairs.

Hope this helps.

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 08:55 AM

There are 3 things I tend to look at when experiencing water in the front footwells:

1. On Mini doors with winders there is a clip-on trim both sides of the glass with a strip of rubber attached, angled at the glass. This allows water to run down the glass and then down the outer door skin and not into the door itself. With age this rubber hardens and moves away from the glass allowing water to ingress and work its way into the inside of the door. When this happens the water should flow out the bottom of the door through some holes, but with time these holes become blocked with dirt and rust flakes, so the water comes through the door and out under the door card. Replace the outer trim+rubber and poke the drainage holes with a small screwdriver to clear the blockage. For extra protection add a waterproof membrane to the inside of your door under your door card. This link tells you how I did that fairly cheaply using plastic sheeting from B&Q - Waterproofing Mini doors

2. Check that the door is on properly and tight against the door seal. Also check that the door seal is not worn or damaged and meets at the bottom. Open the door and pull up the seal to check that the inner and outer sill lips that the seal sits on are not seperated, rusted or rotten. If they are, repairing them is straight forward as shown here - Door seal sill repair

3. Check the front windscreeen rubber seal, especially where both ends meet, for any wear, seperation or lack of sealant. If water is getting past the seal you'll notice it in heavy rain as water drips down the parcel shelf making the shelf wet, and down the interior side of the bulkhead wetting your feet or your passengers. Repair/replace any seals and inspect the surrounding metal for any rust holes and make repairs.

Hope this helps.

DTXDave




cheers dave,
i will deffo look into this, as there's no point in getting the floor repaired, but not sort out the cause.


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Posted 08 August 2009 - 10:02 AM

Well it will fail an MOT if its seen and it could be that water being kicked up by the wheels is coming through that hole.

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 11:09 AM

leaky heater matrix, rusty scuttle, water coming through the hole in the sill, worn out windscreen seal.

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 04:25 PM

I found mine leaked from above the air vent, small hole becomes big hole >_< linky

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 04:30 PM

Best way to find out where the water is actually coming in is to get someone to spray water at the car with a hose while you are sat inside checking the various spots mentioned above. Then you can act on them accordingly.

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 04:40 PM

I found mine leaked from above the air vent, small hole becomes big hole >_< linky


well you did insist on poking it with a screwdriver :thumbsup:

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 04:45 PM

I found mine leaked from above the air vent, small hole becomes big hole >_< linky


well you did insist on poking it with a screwdriver :sneaky:


well I'm not about to use my fingers and get cut :) besides I only poked softly need something to drive round in :thumbsup: :thumbsup:




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