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#1 charlie

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Posted 27 September 2005 - 03:58 PM

Had my 91 Cooper 2 months, it gets all the attention on my works car park.

Now a colleague has copied me and bought what he says is a genuine 91 Cooper.

Some how looking at his car, something doesn't seem right and I cant put my finger on what it is.

How can I tell if it is genuine, and not a good copy?

What points differenticate a Cooper from a normal mini?

I've thought about breaking into his house and looking at his V5, but I don't think he'll like that
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Posted 27 September 2005 - 07:22 PM

Offer him a race! :tongue:

A standard 1275 wont get near a cooper! :lol:

Or, Im sure theres a website where you can put a reg plate in and it comes up with the vehicle.

Failing that, Take note of the reg plate, PM it to me if u want, and ill get my dad to radio into the HQ at the police station and get a regesteration check done on it! :tongue:


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Posted 27 September 2005 - 07:28 PM

Failing that, Take note of the reg plate, PM it to me if u want, and ill get my dad to radio into the HQ at the police station and get a regesteration check done on it! :tongue:

I seriously hope he doesn't abuse his powers that blatently, i'm *Drunk or yellow human water* off with police who do this sort of thing. :lol:

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Posted 27 September 2005 - 07:30 PM

lol! Or you can go onto the RAC Database and it'll tell you!

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Posted 27 September 2005 - 07:45 PM

A standard 1275 wont get near a cooper!

I fear this isn't really true! Cooper engines didn't really differ from standard 1275s. The Rover Coopers that is!

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Posted 27 September 2005 - 08:35 PM

The V5 is realy the only way to tell, as the coopers are just a trimmed up std mini...

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Posted 27 September 2005 - 08:54 PM

My flame red is over a second faster to 60 than a cooper injection :tongue:

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Posted 27 September 2005 - 09:56 PM

Late coopers (97on) were near identical BHP to the standard mini (if not the same) But i believe that a early nineties cooper will have about 10bhp more than an equivilent 1275 standard motor. And thats a fair bit when its a 700kg car! :wink:

#9 charlie

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Posted 28 September 2005 - 07:13 PM

is there any way to tell if its a cooper from the exterior?

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Posted 28 September 2005 - 07:14 PM

Get His reg number and ill find out for you!

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Posted 28 September 2005 - 08:33 PM

A late Cooper has an MG metro engine

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Posted 28 September 2005 - 11:28 PM

I seriously hope he doesn't abuse his powers that blatently, i'm pissed off with police who do this sort of thing. :cry:

Eh? :cry:

If you go on ebay and enter a reg plate, it tells you the number of previous owners, Date of regestration, model, make.

So I cant see the harm in a copper doing it through HQ rather than Ebay? Can you?

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Posted 28 September 2005 - 11:33 PM

You can do this on Ebay!! Please elaborate binge!

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 12:09 AM

A standard 1275 wont get near a cooper!

I fear this isn't really true! Cooper engines didn't really differ from standard 1275s. The Rover Coopers that is!

brown smelly stuff :cry:

All 'Rover' Coopers were 10 bhp better of than the standard variants the cooper garages 'S' packs produced even more right up to 90bhp



A+ specification
50bhp @ 5000rpm 66lb ft @ 2600rpm 1992-2000: Mini Sprite / Mayfair
61bhp @ 5550rpm 61lb ft @ 3000rpm 1990-91: Mini Cooper
61bhp @ 5300rpm 69lb ft @ 2950rpm 1980-84: Morris Ital
62bhp @ 5600rpm 72lb ft @ 3200rpm 1980-82: Austin Allegro
63bhp @ 5700rpm 70lb ft @ 3900rpm 1991-1996: Mini Cooper 1.3i / Cabriolet
63bhp @ 5500rpm 70lb ft @ 3000rpm 1997-2000: Mini Cooper 1.3i (TPi)
63bhp @ 5650rpm 72lb ft @ 3100rpm 1980-90: Austin Metro
64bhp @ 5500rpm 73lb ft @ 3500rpm 1983-85: Austin Maestro HLE
68bhp @ 5800rpm 75lb ft @ 3500rpm 1983-93: Austin Maestro
68bhp @ 5600rpm 75lb ft @ 3500rpm 1984-89: Austin Montego
72bhp @ 6000rpm 73lb ft @ 4000rpm 1982-89: MG Metro
73bhp @ 6000rpm 73lb ft @ 4000rpm 1989-90: Metro GTa
77bhp @ 5800rpm 80lb ft @ 3000rpm 1991-2000: Mini Cooper S 1.3i
78bhp @ 6000rpm 78lb ft @ 3250rpm 1990-91: Mini Cooper S
93bhp @ 6130rpm 85lb ft @ 2650rpm 1983-89: MG Metro Turbo
96bhp @ 6130rpm 1989-90: Mini ERA Turbo

Extracted from www.austinrover.co.uk

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 12:51 AM

I seriously hope he doesn't abuse his powers that blatently, i'm pissed off with police who do this sort of thing.  :cry:

Eh? :cry:

If you go on ebay and enter a reg plate, it tells you the number of previous owners, Date of regestration, model, make.

So I cant see the harm in a copper doing it through HQ rather than Ebay? Can you?

ummm yes i can see the harm in that mate. For starters it's a waste of police time back at 'HQ', which is bad enough. Plus the fact we're paying taxes to fund this tomfoolery. Makes me sick.




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