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[grusks]

Hi guys, im thinking about selling my kit car and starting a new project mainly because casnt get you use it much unless the sun is out, im looking at a R1 or Busa Mini, and was just after a heads up and any advise, i spoke to the factory about 18months ago and was given a price £5200 approx for the kit but have learnt in the past about all the hidden cost the factory don ttell you what you need





1 What sort of price band am i looking at spending. What have you guys spent to get yours on the road

2 Buy a old rotton mini cheap and repair the shell, or get a newer decent shell and pay a bit more

3 what else will i need that not listed

[lindy119]

this is a great place to start i think...

http://www.theminifo...x...=102232&hl=

[Dizzy Less]

Hi mate the price you have needs to be doubled to be fare, there are so many opption, with this kit that no two are ever the same, do you need to race it or do track days with it? if not look at the road kit. and a good shell is inportant as ever as your putting 3 times more power through the chassis it needs to be sound. do you want a bike engine or a car engine? speak to people to get some ideas of what you want,

Lee

[grusks]

Hi mate the price you have needs to be doubled to be fare, there are so many opption, with this kit that no two are ever the same, do you need to race it or do track days with it? if not look at the road kit. and a good shell is inportant as ever as your putting 3 times more power through the chassis it needs to be sound. do you want a bike engine or a car engine? speak to people to get some ideas of what you want,

Lee

Hi Lee

Im after doing track and road, i use my kit car mainly on the track at the mo and im bored with it, no screen or roof means sunny/dry days only and no reverse is a pain.

Ive had car engine and bike engine kits and just love the sound of the bike engine, so i'd most likley go bike engine route, but after reading about the hinda type R engine not to sure, need to do my homework on engine prices and what goes with them.

My last 2 toys have had a 2L ford zetec and a Kawasaki ZX10r 1000cc ninja engine

Ive got budget in mind of £17000 approx, as long as i can sell the mac#1 i have at the mo and the wife dosn't moan lol.

Im planning on a 2year build so i can also save some more cash along the way. I think im turning into a building man rather than a driving man

Edited by grusks, 02 September 2009 - 06:24 PM.

[Dizzy Less]

Hi mate the price you have needs to be doubled to be fare, there are so many opption, with this kit that no two are ever the same, do you need to race it or do track days with it? if not look at the road kit. and a good shell is inportant as ever as your putting 3 times more power through the chassis it needs to be sound. do you want a bike engine or a car engine? speak to people to get some ideas of what you want,

Lee

Hi Lee

Im after doing track and road, i use my kit car mainly on the track at the mo and im bored with it, no screen or roof means sunny/dry days only and no reverse is a pain.

Ive had car engine and bike engine kits and just love the sound of the bike engine, so i'd most likley go bike engine route, but after reading about the hinda type R engine not to sure, need to do my homework on engine prices and what goes with them.

My last 2 toys have had a 2L ford zetec and a Kawasaki ZX10r 1000cc ninja engine

Ive got budget in mind of £17000 approx, as long as i can sell the mac#1 i have at the mo and the wife dosn't moan lol.

Im planning on a 2year build so i can also save some more cash along the way. I think im turning into a building man rather than a driving man

Hello again
Yes I think you are living in the real world, the figers are good, it all depends on how far you want to push it.This is a good place to start as you can find a chassis already done and cut, as people change and get fibre glass ect.
the car engine is better in traffic and quiteter, and can be used every day. The bike is better on a track as it revs for ever and its lighter and has sequenual gearbox and cheaper to tune. Thats my view. Its also louder.
If track is your thing, then yes get the race kit. its worth the exrta cost in the long run, as the wheels never lift in the corners, and no bump steer on the latest kit. SO AM TOLD. as i have not completed mine yet.

Thanks Lee

[grusks]

1 last question if i may, do i need to gt the car SVA / IVA after the build, and if so do people really bother if using on the road

[cptkirk]

1 last question if i may, do i need to gt the car SVA / IVA after the build, and if so do people really bother if using on the road

Consider this: I have seen at least a dozen Zcars in Miniworld and only one of them has been SVA'd and that had a new reg.

[grusks]

thats good enough for me, i read somewhere that if you modified a chassis the vehicle must be IVA'd, but ill think ill give the IVA it a miss as its is now £450.

What the wiring like on the cars, i know most people struggle with wiring ( im a auto sparks so should be easy for me ( fingers crossed )

[brandon7]

thats good enough for me, i read somewhere that if you modified a chassis the vehicle must be IVA'd, but ill think ill give the IVA it a miss as its is now £450.

What the wiring like on the cars, i know most people struggle with wiring ( im a auto sparks so should be easy for me ( fingers crossed )

About the wiring, think you just answered your own question there! nice! haha

Ill add one thing. If thats your budget unless you are looking for a full project I would consider buying a second hand or part finshed. Z cars have quite a few for sale usually and rebuilding/tarting it up with your own touches could be a good way forward. (But you just need to be very cautious about what you buy) So buying from Chris would be advisable
This is the best way I can think of to save money having built one myself as costs just completely go out of control. Good luck with it and good choice for finding us!

[pete]

thats good enough for me, i read somewhere that if you modified a chassis the vehicle must be IVA'd, but ill think ill give the IVA it a miss as its is now £450.

What the wiring like on the cars, i know most people struggle with wiring ( im a auto sparks so should be easy for me ( fingers crossed )

If you modify the chassis to this extent then yes you do need an IVA. As Cpt Kirk has said, most people don't bother but now the MOT is computerised and with further changes coming in 2010, it is easier for dvla to find out that your car is modified. They will then insist on an IVA which will prove more troublesome than if you just build it that way in the first place.
And before everyone jumps down my throat disagreeing with me, I have recently had someone on this forum asking me SVA/IVA questions via pm about a car he bought which doesn't use a standard bodyshell. The previous owner had used the original i.d. and had mot's done at his local friendly garage. First time the new owner took it for an mot, he gets a letter from dvla insisting it have an IVA test and be registered on a Q plate. He's now considering whether it's worth doing or not.
Whilst I hope this doesn't happen to anyone, when you are building a car like this is it worth taking the risk. Your planning on spending around £17k so budget £16.5k and have the money to IVA it. I built my first one for £13k and have just finished a new build for £20k so you should easily do it for £16.5k. Alternatively, make sure you have a local friendly MOT station.

[grusks]

Cheers Pete

Ive sva 2 cars now, one was a breeze which i was sure might not pass, the other a pain and didnt pass which i thought it was a 100% passed and failed. more down to the tester on the day. Id rather not bother with all the agg, and my friend is also a MOT tester so shouldn't have to much of a problem, when i was having my last SVA it was a week before the IVA came out and most of the testers didn't have a clue what was happening with the new iva, the new rules for IVA can be interpreted different ways and ive heard people failing IVa then after a complain and re read of the rules they get a pass.

To be honest, most of use will be track use, but witht he odd road use ( mainly bedding in brakes and the odd wizz out after bad day at work to let off stream) but if i have to IVA i will bbbbbbbooooooo to vosa

Spence

PS pete, your build looks the nuts

Edited by grusks, 06 September 2009 - 08:50 AM.