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#1 Neildanks

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 08:10 PM

Why are there so many people concerned about us less intelectuel people.

I am fed up of people on this forum picking up on the way we

A Spell

B Use Capital Letters On Every Word

C Use of punctuation


We are trying to either get help with our minis or basically trying to socialise.

Its not nice to keep having these things pointed out in nearly every post we give. And i'm not on my own with this, a few other members have the same problem and are getting embarresed to post anything.

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 08:13 PM

Why are there so many people concerned about us less intelectuel people.

I am fed up of people on this forum picking up on the way we

A Spell

B Use Capital Letters On Every Word

C Use of punctuation


We are trying to either get help with our minis or basically trying to socialise.

Its not nice to keep having these things pointed out in nearly every post we give. And i'm not on my own with this, a few other members have the same problem and are getting embarresed to post anything.


They don't do it purposefully to make you feel inadequate or to embarrass you, it's simply because some find the way you say you write difficult to understand, and consequently aren't as able to help you. You shouldn't worry about it because although there are a minority who pick on people for such things, the majority only want to help.

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 08:31 PM

You do get some posts where there is a paragraph of text with no full stops, capitals, commas or anything and that is difficult to read I admit but as for
a couple of spelling mistakes or a misplaced comma, that isn't a big deal is it? Not everyone are walking dictionaries and not everyone cares if the commas are in the correct place or not. Some people need to take things a little less seriously.

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 08:37 PM

You do get some posts where there is a paragraph of text with no full stops, capitals, commas or anything and that is difficult to read I admit but as for
a couple of spelling mistakes or a misplaced comma, that isn't a big deal is it? Not everyone are walking dictionaries and not everyone cares if the commas are in the correct place or not. Some people need to take things a little less seriously.

here here ! ! ! *melons* em ! ! i cont speil anyhoows ! lololol its ok buddy the people that comment need to get a girlfriend !!

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 08:50 PM

I don't think anyone means to be rude when they ask. Although I agree some of the check spelling retorts are over the top and remind me of being at school!

Most of the time its obvious what's meant, but occasionally it looks like someone has just mashed their forehead into the keyboard and pressed the "Post" button.

If people don't put any effort into writing their posts, don't expect people to put any effort into reading them.

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 09:10 PM

WHATS THE BIG DEEL?? I write in capitals - that seems to annoy some people :kiss:

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 09:12 PM

WE DONT ENCOURAGE SHOUTING ON THEMINIFORUM MARTIN!!!

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 09:27 PM

There's nothing in this topic so far that isn't acceptable.

It is a basic courtesy to put some effort in to making your posts legible by using a spell checker and reading it through - if you can't be bothered to give it the once over why should anyone else? Correct spelling also helps with searching and a readable forum is more likely to be a popular forum, which is in everyone's interest.

Remember your post will be published on the web. It will be more permanent than in a text or chatroom. If you improve your written English along the way then that's an added bonus.

If you've honestly made an effort then you'd be justified in thinking anyone who has a dig is a bit of a round thing on top of a gear stick.

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 10:51 PM

You do get some posts where there is a paragraph of text with no full stops, capitals, commas or anything and that is difficult to read I admit but as for
a couple of spelling mistakes or a misplaced comma, that isn't a big deal is it? Not everyone are walking dictionaries and not everyone cares if the commas are in the correct place or not. Some people need to take things a little less seriously.


I agree you do get some awfully punctuated posts, some of which you cant actually understand what they are saying because there is no puctuation and bad spelling errors.

Some of the most annoying punctuation i have seen on here is when a post is written with a capital at the beginning of every word.

"Much Like This"

Which the creator of this topic has done in the past, of whom i am not descriminating, i'm just mentioning.

Is only people who use "txt" speak or dont bother to punctuate that need to take the time to review their posts.

Again, not meant in a descriminatory way :)

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 11:55 PM

I'm about to open another bottle.
(pop glug-glug)
And then post this that and the other.
I will mis-spell the odd word word hare and there
I mae even use words I dodn't even meen to use in the furst plaice.
Does this meen my posts wont be red by anione ?

I do read a lot of stuff posted on here by people who spell badly, by people who use grammar badly.
But also by people who describe things as "that odd shaped bit next to the oily thing".

I'm a Londoner and I use rhyming slang in my speech and sometimes in my posts.
But I live in Birmingham where the phrase "them am good them am" is perfectly acceptable and understood by everyone.

Luckily we don't have the equivalent of the L'Académie Française who try to DICTATE how language must be used
but who can't stop the French saying "Le Parking" and "La Weekend" for all their efforts. And a good job too.

English is a living and elastic language which constantly mutates and changes to suit the needs and whims of it's users.
Do you speak exactly the way your parents do ?
Does the word "cool" mean the same thing to you as it does to them ? Or even to some of your friends ?
"wicked" is a great example. What does it mean to you - and it which context ?
(oops - I meant IN which context - [pop glug-glug], musn't mis spell ant=ything in this tred. Thred. Thread.)
I think I've used the hard and soft brackets badly now asweel. I mean aswell.
Opps - full stop AFTER the bracket not IN the brackets.
OOps - I meant Ooops not opps.
Who in their right mind is going to correct someone else's use of English on a web forum ?

"Thatcherism" is in the Oxford English Dictionary. (capitalised properly) and the spell check someone suggested would have given
that as "capitalized". Go figure - it's American software... (isn't it all) ?

"Google" is now a verb.
Shakespear (choose your own spelling of his name - there are twelve) habitually put an "e" on the end of all kinds of words as did Chaucer.
But I don't.

txt speak and the grammar that goes with it may very easily become the norm over the next twenty, fifty or hundred years as we
all use it more often and become used to it as a norm. Or perhaps reject it as it becomes easier to type into phones using
the long form of our language. Watch this space...

Seen Blade Runner? Seen Star Trek? Of course we'll need a whole new vocabulary.
When it comes to actually re-routing plasma to the power conduits on level 9 we will need to describe our world in new ways.
And we'll need new language to do it. The language we already have will mutate and adapt (resistance is futile) along with it.

Ye gads and forsoothe my lord Smethwicke, where this arrow falls - bury me !
(but spell my name right on the grave)

Best wishes
Monty

Edit... well... I had to go back and check my use of English

Edited by MiniMonty, 06 September 2009 - 12:01 AM.


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Posted 06 September 2009 - 04:12 AM

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Posted 06 September 2009 - 05:37 AM

Thanks to all that have replied. Lets just remember what may seem easy to some people is extremly difficult to others

I have 2 cousins that can do mainly anything mechanically. but who can't read and write. They are now trying to learn and it is extremly difficult for them. all i'm saying is

lets think what we comment on before shooting people down.

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Posted 06 September 2009 - 07:13 AM

I don't know about other browsers but I use google chrome, which automatically spell checks my posts as I type them, and also corrects some of my punctuation.

I agree that posts written all in caps is very annoying, and can be helped, but apart from that, I have not seen a post on here that I REALLY haven't had a clue what the poster is trying to get at.

For all anyone knows the people who's spelling is terrible could well be dyslexic or may have other issues that they may not wish to disclose.

Just my two pence worth :)

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Posted 06 September 2009 - 07:17 AM

"Google" is now a verb.


Interestingly in my last post it said I had spelt google wrong, it doesn't even accept Google. I thought it strange that a web browser doesn't accept its own name a correctly spelt word :)

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Posted 06 September 2009 - 07:28 AM

There is no problem with incorrect spelling here and there - most people do have difficulty with this. Its the text slang that does my head in. I cant understand it so dont even try to, therefore that person gets no response from me.

Theres no problem if the odd comma or fullstop is in the wrong place or missed out, but if you get 8 lines of someone explaining a problem they're having with no punctuation at al,l then that too is unreadable and again there will be no response from me.

I read another thread this morning on TM and the word "bassist" was used. I had to read that sentence 5 times to realise he meant "best". Sometimes its genuinely hard work, so all thats reasonably asked for is a little effort

Paul




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