Hi all, is there much difference between flat top and doomed pistons as i have
the two and dont know which set to fit.
There are going into a 998 with a stage3 head (not being skimmed std size), sw5 cam and lightened flywheel
Thanks in advance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which Is Better Flat Top And Doomed Pistons
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087dave
, Sep 27 2009 12:03 PM
6 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 27 September 2009 - 12:03 PM
#2
Posted 27 September 2009 - 12:17 PM
We're Doomed! we're all doomed! aye
Lol, sorry.
Domed pistons are not normaly used on the A series, There were the old 997 raised crown pistons which could be considered Domed, but they have not been used in YEARS.
Flat top pistons are used in the High compression 998 engines and the dished pistons in the low compression engines. if you still want a higher compression ratio, skim the head. Make sure you calculate the compression ratio acurately by measuring all the parts you intend to use on the engine build
Lol, sorry.
Domed pistons are not normaly used on the A series, There were the old 997 raised crown pistons which could be considered Domed, but they have not been used in YEARS.
Flat top pistons are used in the High compression 998 engines and the dished pistons in the low compression engines. if you still want a higher compression ratio, skim the head. Make sure you calculate the compression ratio acurately by measuring all the parts you intend to use on the engine build
#3
Posted 27 September 2009 - 12:41 PM
Thanks for that how do you calculate the CR i know the head has 26cc
#4
Posted 27 September 2009 - 12:51 PM
swept volume + chamber volume divided by chamber volume.
swept volume is bore (area) x stroke
chamber volume is head volume + gasket volume + piston volume (if any) + a bit for ring land....
swept volume is bore (area) x stroke
chamber volume is head volume + gasket volume + piston volume (if any) + a bit for ring land....
#5
Posted 27 September 2009 - 01:05 PM
Thank you so much but,
where do i get the gasket volume+piston volume from
I was thicking to go with dished or flat top piston
Dished because it gives a swirling affect with the fuel air mixture
Flat top because of better compression
Please advise
Thanks
where do i get the gasket volume+piston volume from
I was thicking to go with dished or flat top piston
Dished because it gives a swirling affect with the fuel air mixture
Flat top because of better compression
Please advise
Thanks
#6
Posted 27 September 2009 - 01:38 PM
Go with whatever gives you the correct CR - that's what the BL/Austin/Rover did.
The economy version of the A+ used flat tops giving a CR of 10.3:1 - ever so slightly high for a road engine one today's petrol.
I'm sure someone will know the volume of a smallbore head gasket, somewhere around 4cc's I'd think. There's also any volume between the top of the piston and the top of the cylinder.
The economy version of the A+ used flat tops giving a CR of 10.3:1 - ever so slightly high for a road engine one today's petrol.
I'm sure someone will know the volume of a smallbore head gasket, somewhere around 4cc's I'd think. There's also any volume between the top of the piston and the top of the cylinder.
#7
Posted 27 September 2009 - 03:06 PM
Small-bore copper-faced gasket is 2.7 cc.
Allow about 0.6 cc for ring land volume and don't forget to allow whatever is between piston crown and block deck. Allow 0.85 cc for every 0.010" on a small-bore engine.
I hope this helps.
Allow about 0.6 cc for ring land volume and don't forget to allow whatever is between piston crown and block deck. Allow 0.85 cc for every 0.010" on a small-bore engine.
I hope this helps.
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