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Council Tax Is Unlawful?
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, Oct 09 2009 06:52 AM
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 06:52 AM
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 07:03 AM
Only one problem with this...
Now, knowing this money is used to pay for our healthcare, roads, lights, police, fireservice, binmen, tips, roads, etc. I wonder if the person now not paying would like to withdraw his usage of all of those services? As he's said there's no contract, so if he uses them, or goes into a public park, surely he's trespassing?
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They KNOW Council Tax is unlawful and are simply robbing those who haven’t woken up to the facts yet to the tune of £140,000,000,000 per annum (thats 140 BILLION of our money!)
Now, knowing this money is used to pay for our healthcare, roads, lights, police, fireservice, binmen, tips, roads, etc. I wonder if the person now not paying would like to withdraw his usage of all of those services? As he's said there's no contract, so if he uses them, or goes into a public park, surely he's trespassing?
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 07:58 AM
surely he's trespassing?
Only if he causes damage. But I get you point. Very interesting stuff guys!
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 11:18 AM
I only said it as it seems this guy thinks he has the right to use everything, but just doesn't want to pay for it all.
Take away the billions of pounds and then I bet he'll complain there's no streetlights, he never sees the police, his house burnt down and nobody came to put the fire out!?
Seems like a twit to me, is all...
Dave
Take away the billions of pounds and then I bet he'll complain there's no streetlights, he never sees the police, his house burnt down and nobody came to put the fire out!?
Seems like a twit to me, is all...
Dave
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 11:23 AM
I only said it as it seems this guy thinks he has the right to use everything, but just doesn't want to pay for it all.
Take away the billions of pounds and then I bet he'll complain there's no streetlights, he never sees the police, his house burnt down and nobody came to put the fire out!?
Seems like a twit to me, is all...
Dave
Now I've read it properly, you're bang on.
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 11:40 AM
I only said it as it seems this guy thinks he has the right to use everything, but just doesn't want to pay for it all.
Take away the billions of pounds and then I bet he'll complain there's no streetlights, he never sees the police, his house burnt down and nobody came to put the fire out!?
Seems like a twit to me, is all...
Dave
surly he would still have some right to those services you mention because of the other taxes that are paid (assuming one works). In my area council tax pays for things like schools & playgrounds (no kids!?), residential care, leisure centres (which you also have to pay for again with membership/access fees anyway) police and fire services (when they decide to not strike).
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 03:20 PM
Council tax also pays for pavements, parks and street lighting.
I'll let him drive a car on the road, as long as he pays his roadtax, and doesn't park in any free parking spaces, or touch the pavement on his way from his house to his car.
I'll also let him get the bus into town, but then he'll have to climb on the buildings to get from shop to shop, as he hasn't paid his due for the pavements?
I'm being a bit OTT I accept, but if you don't pay council tax then they will have to get the money from somewhere else.
Dave
I'll let him drive a car on the road, as long as he pays his roadtax, and doesn't park in any free parking spaces, or touch the pavement on his way from his house to his car.
I'll also let him get the bus into town, but then he'll have to climb on the buildings to get from shop to shop, as he hasn't paid his due for the pavements?
I'm being a bit OTT I accept, but if you don't pay council tax then they will have to get the money from somewhere else.
Dave
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 03:20 PM
They're not admitting council tax is unlawful - it may just cost the council more money in hiring a crack team of lawyers to prove otherwise, so the easy option is to back out.
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 03:57 PM
surly he would still have some right to those services you mention because of the other taxes that are paid (assuming one works). In my area council tax pays for things like schools & playgrounds (no kids!?), residential care, leisure centres (which you also have to pay for again with membership/access fees anyway) police and fire services (when they decide to not strike).
I'd assume you limiting the strike action to the firefighters? just saying as Police can't strike by law
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 06:41 PM
Council tax also pays for pavements, parks and street lighting.
I'll let him drive a car on the road, as long as he pays his roadtax, and doesn't park in any free parking spaces, or touch the pavement on his way from his house to his car.
I'll also let him get the bus into town, but then he'll have to climb on the buildings to get from shop to shop, as he hasn't paid his due for the pavements?
I'm being a bit OTT I accept, but if you don't pay council tax then they will have to get the money from somewhere else.
Dave
I'm not entirely agreeing with the OP, but there is a fair chuck of Council Tax taken for services you'd never see or use, I just think it's a bit unfair subsidising other people.
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 06:51 PM
council tax
want to know where your money is wasted?
think £150,000 + cheif execs
think £60,000 chauffeur cars
think airplane trips to london and meetings
think hotel stop overs
think 7 tier management (Chief execs, group directors, directors, service managar, area manager, managers, inspectors/foreman, normal bloke)
Then theres good attendance rewards each quater (LCD TV, HD camcorder, Ipod) and things like that.
And thats not scratching the surface!
want to know where your money is wasted?
think £150,000 + cheif execs
think £60,000 chauffeur cars
think airplane trips to london and meetings
think hotel stop overs
think 7 tier management (Chief execs, group directors, directors, service managar, area manager, managers, inspectors/foreman, normal bloke)
Then theres good attendance rewards each quater (LCD TV, HD camcorder, Ipod) and things like that.
And thats not scratching the surface!
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