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#1 mini123

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 10:03 PM

when i set off in 1st gear it seems to pop out, but not all the time, i'd say 2-10 times, which is still bad.

anyone know why this is happening?

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 10:12 PM

Gearbox is knackered.

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 10:24 PM

:w00t: i was hoping nobody would say that.... so im guessing my best bet is to buy another gearbox?

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 10:52 PM

Guessworks on here will refurb your gearbox for a very reasonable price and do a very good job at the same time.

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 11:11 PM

cheers Liirge :w00t: il send him a message

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 11:56 PM

It might just be worn engine mounts/stabilisers allowing the engine to move and knock the selector out of gear. Worth investigating before you rip the box out.

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Posted 12 October 2009 - 12:07 AM

It might just be worn engine mounts/stabilisers allowing the engine to move and knock the selector out of gear. Worth investigating before you rip the box out.

That is true,
However i would expect it to pop out of more than just 1st..

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Posted 12 October 2009 - 12:33 AM

Possibly, the gearbox puts out most torque in first though really it ought to pull the selector into gear.

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Posted 12 October 2009 - 12:44 PM

i know that the mount holding my gear selector is very loose, the phrase my friend used was 'stirring soup' and i dont have the gearbox stabiliser on because i cant find the plate for it. could these cause the gear to pop out? the other gears are fine

there is a gearbox on the classified section for sale for 165quid, would it be worth invetsing it that then refurbing mine?

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Posted 12 October 2009 - 12:57 PM

Impossible to say without knowing what's faulty with your box.
I'd investigate the selector first. The selector should work with just the engine stabiliser above the clutch, that's all that was fitted for several years.

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Posted 12 October 2009 - 03:41 PM

Hi Shaz
From what your saying it sounds like the gear syncro/bulk rings are worn. As it was said earlier if there is movement on the engine mounts upon acceleration it should hold in gear not come out. Does it happen when you accelerate or when you back off?
Check to see if the rubber bobbins are cracked/broken which holds the selector up underneath the gear stick, this can cause a problem.
Normally if mounts/rubbers are worn or broken you would struggle to get it into gear without it grinding in as it would be out of line to engage gears, does it have this problem or does it normally go into gear smoothly?
Is 1st gear the only problem?

ps, the gearbox is still for sale!!!! (im only trying to offer advise and not generate a sale :w00t: !!!)

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Posted 12 October 2009 - 05:46 PM

haha thanks tingtong, yea i do struggle to get into gear 1 the most, i have to play around by going into difrent gears then pushing hard into 1st, but sometimes it like to go in smoothly. im guessing the rubber thingys need change and i think the bracket that they are connected to has alot of play in it. when its in 1st gear i can still push it back and forward quite a bit. but i do fancy an upgrade ;D

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Posted 12 October 2009 - 08:45 PM

sorry to butt in on the topic, but saves starting a new one.

I have that problem with my reverse gear which isnt quite as bad as 1st but its still annoying. Would all the advice that has been said occur to reverse aswell?

Thanks
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Posted 12 October 2009 - 08:55 PM

It could be due to the engine moving but not a problem with a synchro. With reverse it's probably a problem with the selector detant and can be fixed more easily.




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