Evening all on this... lovely... wet night :tongue: Bloody english weather!
I've had several searches and found some vague things about the Metro brake conversion, but not exactly what I need to know.
I have a 998 manual 1980 Mini 1000. What brakes can I fit from what Metro? (Model and year)
I know you can fit the 4 pot vented disks and callipers from a Metro trubo... But I think they maybe a tad overkill for my needs.
I also heard that the Metro has to be a F/G reg or before to do the conversion???
Please help, very confused.
Thanks in advance!!
Brakes/Stoppers/Anchors
Started by
jack_marshall
, Oct 20 2005 08:40 PM
7 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 20 October 2005 - 08:40 PM
#2
Posted 20 October 2005 - 08:44 PM
The brakes come from the older style metro.
Austin/MG with the 'A' series engine. You cannot use Rover Metro brakes without lots of modification.
As for the metro conversion i have no idea.
Why not fit 8.4" disc brakes, you can pick up the whole lot with shafts which u just bolt on to the car and bleed up. for £30-£50.
8.4" brakes are common on 1984 onwards Mini's. A set of standard or drilled discs and ebc blackstuff pads, will give you all the stopping power you need.
Only problem you may have is the wheel size. If your mini has 10" wheels (assuming your on drums, if your mini is 1980) then you will have to change to 12" wheels to fit 8.4" brakes.
If you want to keep 10" wheels,
1) Purchase Cooper S brake setup (pricey at £150-350 2nd hand)
2) Modify Fiesta capliers (dont know about this, Pickup76 did a guide when he converted to these)
3) Alloy 4 pots (dont know about this)
Austin/MG with the 'A' series engine. You cannot use Rover Metro brakes without lots of modification.
As for the metro conversion i have no idea.
Why not fit 8.4" disc brakes, you can pick up the whole lot with shafts which u just bolt on to the car and bleed up. for £30-£50.
8.4" brakes are common on 1984 onwards Mini's. A set of standard or drilled discs and ebc blackstuff pads, will give you all the stopping power you need.
Only problem you may have is the wheel size. If your mini has 10" wheels (assuming your on drums, if your mini is 1980) then you will have to change to 12" wheels to fit 8.4" brakes.
If you want to keep 10" wheels,
1) Purchase Cooper S brake setup (pricey at £150-350 2nd hand)
2) Modify Fiesta capliers (dont know about this, Pickup76 did a guide when he converted to these)
3) Alloy 4 pots (dont know about this)
#3
Posted 20 October 2005 - 09:09 PM
Cheers for the help!
I'll be running either 12 or 13's... 10's means lots of money for the brakes! And I don't want to stick with drums, theyre so scary :sad:
Now I just need to decide weather to go for the Mini 8.4 Disks or the older Metro ones...
I guess are going to be around the same price... What would you lot advise to go for?
Thanks alot!
I'll be running either 12 or 13's... 10's means lots of money for the brakes! And I don't want to stick with drums, theyre so scary :sad:
Now I just need to decide weather to go for the Mini 8.4 Disks or the older Metro ones...
I guess are going to be around the same price... What would you lot advise to go for?
Thanks alot!
#4
Posted 20 October 2005 - 10:21 PM
Use the 8.4 Mini discs.
Metro ones are too heavy and increase the unsprung weight and cost a lot more (you need a hose conversion kit) and depening on what year the metro was you need new ball joints. The early Metros had 2 different tapers on the ball joints. And some Metro hubs need adjustable lower arms to comensate for the different camber angle.
INCIDENTALLY when I converted a set a guy who was an ex RR engineer measured the ball joints that fit Mini arms and said that even they were the wrong taper.
Siggy
Metro ones are too heavy and increase the unsprung weight and cost a lot more (you need a hose conversion kit) and depening on what year the metro was you need new ball joints. The early Metros had 2 different tapers on the ball joints. And some Metro hubs need adjustable lower arms to comensate for the different camber angle.
INCIDENTALLY when I converted a set a guy who was an ex RR engineer measured the ball joints that fit Mini arms and said that even they were the wrong taper.
Siggy
#5
Posted 21 October 2005 - 07:42 AM
Quite simply metro hubs should not be used, the suspension geometry is all wrong... Mini Hubs should be used, and unless you're going to be putting Metro vented brakes on, it would be both cheaper and quicker to replace your drums with std 8.4 disks off an '84 on mini...
#6
Posted 21 October 2005 - 08:43 AM
Absolutely, Metro hubs are all wrong for a Mini. So if you use Metro brakes you'll be buying Mini hubs as well (your current hubs can't hold callipers) as the Metro brake setup. Buy the complete Mini setup.
#7
Posted 21 October 2005 - 09:37 AM
Okie dokie!
Thanks very very much as all this was getting very confusing and heard bad things about the Metro conversion!
Cheers!
Thanks very very much as all this was getting very confusing and heard bad things about the Metro conversion!
Cheers!
#8
Posted 02 June 2007 - 05:23 PM
hay dude when you did the conversion did you have any probs with the metro brakes i cant seem to get them to work on mine and it had been off the road 4 months it kills. lol thanks birdie
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