Hi Guys,
I am looking at painting my own car and I am wondering if anyone has any advice on spray gun choice. I have looked at the following website:
http://www.justoffba...Shop/Spray-Guns
Was wondering if I should go with a gravity feed type gun. What else do I need, this might sound like a totally question, but do I need compressed air as well?
Jordan
Help Choosing A Spray Gun
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Jordan Loughlin
, Jan 27 2010 12:32 AM
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 12:32 AM
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 01:25 AM
To run any spray gun you'll need a compressor. Most professional guns need quite alot of air to work properly too.
My knowledge is pretty limited when it comes to this, but if you have a look at the guns and compressors on machine mart, you'll get an idea of what sort of gun and compressor you'll need. I'd say you'll need a couple of hundred quid to buy a compressor capable of running a spray gun properly.
My knowledge is pretty limited when it comes to this, but if you have a look at the guns and compressors on machine mart, you'll get an idea of what sort of gun and compressor you'll need. I'd say you'll need a couple of hundred quid to buy a compressor capable of running a spray gun properly.
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 03:01 AM
To run any spray gun you'll need a compressor. Most professional guns need quite alot of air to work properly too.
My knowledge is pretty limited when it comes to this, but if you have a look at the guns and compressors on machine mart, you'll get an idea of what sort of gun and compressor you'll need. I'd say you'll need a couple of hundred quid to buy a compressor capable of running a spray gun properly.
Hi Mike
Sata 3000 HVLP is about the best you can get.
They show up on E-bay often.
Good luck Scott
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 08:13 AM
^ +1
Sata make good guns. Devilbiss are good too. Im saving up for a Devilbiss GTI.
This is one of those things where you get what you pay for. If you get a spray gun from halfrauds for £20 it will spray the paint sure, but the finish wont be great. Spend the cash on the Sata or another good quality gun (and they aint cheap) and you get a beautiful finish which is very handy when clearing as it will require a lot less work for a showroom finish.
In my opp, a HVLP gun is the best to get. HVLP stands for "High volume, low pressure". So they spray a high volume of paint at low pressures. When im clearing i run my gun at about 40psi.
To run a gun like that you are gonna need a decent bit of airflow. There are a lot of different compressors on the market so it can be a bit of a minefield. Best way to work it out is find which gun you are gonna get and it should tell you its requirments as far as air pressure goes. Then you can pick a compressor that does the job you need.
If noise isnt a problem you could go to somewhere like machinemart and pick up a compressor for a couple hundred quid that will do the job but when its running it will sound like the end of the world. They are seriously loud (my old one was 93db when running). If you want a quiet/silent compressor then the price is gonna sky rocket. My current compressor i use for my airbrushing is a Bambi silent model and cost me just over £600.
and dont forget your compressor is going to need a storage tank of some sort. The bigger the tank the better. Mine has a 50l tank on it and when im clearing a bike tank/helmet or something the air doesnt last that long before the motor has to kick in again to top the tank up. If you are gonna be spraying a mini then it will need to refil the tank after every coat of paint/clear im guessing because of the sheer surface area you will be spraying. The last thing you want is to be in the middle of a spray run and run out of air. Motors get hot too so you dont want it running constantly, esp if its a noisey one lol.
So my advice woud be to choose the best quality gun you can afford, find out its air requirments and choose a compresor to suit. Hope that helps a bit.
Oh, and on a side note dont forget to protect yourself/those around you properly aswell. those guns will create A LOT of overspray so everything around the car will get covered in spray. You, the floor, walls, ceiling... protect your skin, eyes, lungs and make sure nobody around you is breathing that paint-filled air either. You only have one set of lungs
Oh, and if you intend to use solvent paints/clear dont forget the fumes are flamable. Dont want to go blowing yourself up
Sata make good guns. Devilbiss are good too. Im saving up for a Devilbiss GTI.
This is one of those things where you get what you pay for. If you get a spray gun from halfrauds for £20 it will spray the paint sure, but the finish wont be great. Spend the cash on the Sata or another good quality gun (and they aint cheap) and you get a beautiful finish which is very handy when clearing as it will require a lot less work for a showroom finish.
In my opp, a HVLP gun is the best to get. HVLP stands for "High volume, low pressure". So they spray a high volume of paint at low pressures. When im clearing i run my gun at about 40psi.
To run a gun like that you are gonna need a decent bit of airflow. There are a lot of different compressors on the market so it can be a bit of a minefield. Best way to work it out is find which gun you are gonna get and it should tell you its requirments as far as air pressure goes. Then you can pick a compressor that does the job you need.
If noise isnt a problem you could go to somewhere like machinemart and pick up a compressor for a couple hundred quid that will do the job but when its running it will sound like the end of the world. They are seriously loud (my old one was 93db when running). If you want a quiet/silent compressor then the price is gonna sky rocket. My current compressor i use for my airbrushing is a Bambi silent model and cost me just over £600.
and dont forget your compressor is going to need a storage tank of some sort. The bigger the tank the better. Mine has a 50l tank on it and when im clearing a bike tank/helmet or something the air doesnt last that long before the motor has to kick in again to top the tank up. If you are gonna be spraying a mini then it will need to refil the tank after every coat of paint/clear im guessing because of the sheer surface area you will be spraying. The last thing you want is to be in the middle of a spray run and run out of air. Motors get hot too so you dont want it running constantly, esp if its a noisey one lol.
So my advice woud be to choose the best quality gun you can afford, find out its air requirments and choose a compresor to suit. Hope that helps a bit.
Oh, and on a side note dont forget to protect yourself/those around you properly aswell. those guns will create A LOT of overspray so everything around the car will get covered in spray. You, the floor, walls, ceiling... protect your skin, eyes, lungs and make sure nobody around you is breathing that paint-filled air either. You only have one set of lungs
Oh, and if you intend to use solvent paints/clear dont forget the fumes are flamable. Dont want to go blowing yourself up
Edited by Svee, 27 January 2010 - 08:15 AM.
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 07:04 PM
Agreed Sata make the best guns, but they aren't suitable for a beginner due to the fact that they throw out alot of product, making them more difficult to use if you're a beginner. The second best gun available at the moment in my opinion is the Devilbiss Gti Pro. You get an excellent finish, and they are easy to use. Look on eBay.
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 10:46 PM
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 04:55 PM
Agreed Sata make the best guns, but they aren't suitable for a beginner due to the fact that they throw out alot of product, making them more difficult to use if you're a beginner. The second best gun available at the moment in my opinion is the Devilbiss Gti Pro. You get an excellent finish, and they are easy to use. Look on eBay.
If you don't want to spend a huge amount to begin with the DeVilbiss Finishline Guns are brilliant for beginners, I started my first project with a Machine Mart £20 gun and Clarke £175 compressor and got pretty quickly fed up of the gun so got on to spraygunsdirect and spent about £80 on a DeVilbiss which is really easy to use. You can get a decent finish, even from the cheaper compressor (although I don't suggest that that compressor I got is adequate for a lot of spraying as it does run almost constantly during spraying) and you don't need to make huge adjustments to get an even finish. Just a suggestion as i don't know about the Gti.
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 08:03 PM
Ive been painting for around 4 years starting out with Sata.. brilliant guns but I always struggled with them because of the amount of paint they chuck out for top coat or clears.
I eventually gave in and bought a Devilbiss Gti Pro 1.3 last year. It was £220 but suits me down to the ground.. it felt like somebody turned my skill level up a notch using it for the first time. I would definately advise anybody to buy one because it will suit beginners through to experts.
Still use a Sata for primer with a 1.8 fluid tip, brilliant when you have a big area to cover.
I eventually gave in and bought a Devilbiss Gti Pro 1.3 last year. It was £220 but suits me down to the ground.. it felt like somebody turned my skill level up a notch using it for the first time. I would definately advise anybody to buy one because it will suit beginners through to experts.
Still use a Sata for primer with a 1.8 fluid tip, brilliant when you have a big area to cover.
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 12:42 PM
I guess the first thing you need to establish is your budget.
I use a SATA 3000 RP Digital with a 1.2 fluid tip, and what a gun it is, but at a shade under £450 you would expect it to be.
I guess you have to ask yourself how often you would use it. A decent compressor with a 200ltr tank and pushing out say 15cfm will set you back £400 ish, a decent gun to go with it and other £200 - 300 and by the tie you add the bits and pieces your touching a grand.
Other option is to hire a compressor and buy a gun for about £80 ish for a good 2nd hand one. I may even have one about if that is the way you want to go.
If it is a one off thing your doing then it may be better to hand it in for a paint job, it would probably end up costing you the same amount of money, but then you don't have the gear to do any other jobs..
swings and roundabouts..
I use a SATA 3000 RP Digital with a 1.2 fluid tip, and what a gun it is, but at a shade under £450 you would expect it to be.
I guess you have to ask yourself how often you would use it. A decent compressor with a 200ltr tank and pushing out say 15cfm will set you back £400 ish, a decent gun to go with it and other £200 - 300 and by the tie you add the bits and pieces your touching a grand.
Other option is to hire a compressor and buy a gun for about £80 ish for a good 2nd hand one. I may even have one about if that is the way you want to go.
If it is a one off thing your doing then it may be better to hand it in for a paint job, it would probably end up costing you the same amount of money, but then you don't have the gear to do any other jobs..
swings and roundabouts..
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