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[1995 MK2 IOM]

1995 MPI (I think)

(asap with this one - sitting on the sofa with my car in pieces in front of me )

I have done a few posts similar to this but cant find them so need to ask sort of the same question now I have found something interesting...

now just need to know the best thing to do...


Basically, I was under the impression that my mini had come from Germany, however I was told this by the seller, so was always unsure.

ANYWAY... I got bored tonight so I thought id have a play with my speedo, fuel gauge and lights etc because they weren't working right.

so when I took my speedo apart, from this:



I found this:






so what now? the fact that the original speedo is in KPH means that the odometer is in KPH too... so if I keep the cream front on, the odometer will read wrong... (as it will read in MPH).


Any ideas what I should do?

Cheers

Jason

[R1minimagic]

It should be no problem as 180kph is 109.8mph!! Added bonus your car has done less mileage than you thought!!

[Bungle]

is having your odometer in KM a problem for you ?

[L400RAS]

I would agree with R1minimagic. Put the gauge back together; the speed will be correct, but when you sell the car on, remember to tell the new owner that the odometer reads in km (times by 5, divide by 8 to get to miles)

[1995 MK2 IOM]

It should be no problem as 180kph is 109.8mph!! Added bonus your car has done less mileage than you thought!!

so you'd just keep the black one on?

only problem is the others in the car are cream...

well actually the fuel gauge and the temp dial has black behind it too... but not the rev. dial...

[1995 MK2 IOM]

is having your odometer in KM a problem for you ?

Just that it says its in miles when its not wanted it to be right thats all...

[1995 MK2 IOM]

can you get dials that are in MPH but the odometer bit says that its KPH? if that makes sense? as in similar to the cover that I have over my black one?

Thanks

Edited by 1995 MK2 IOM, 28 January 2010 - 07:21 PM.

[mrslaphead]

Doesnt one of the members on here (MiniMonty ?) do "bespoke" clock facias.

I think I suggested that your speedo had been converted a few weeks ago, when you couldnt understand why the distances you travelled
didnt match up. At least this has confirmed that your speedo isnt faulty.

[GraemeC]

I would say you do have a problem - the value of you car is going to go down due to the fact that it looks much higher mileage than it is. ie it 'says' 62095 miles at the moment but has only actually done 38,809. Try convincing a potential buyer that the car has only done just over half what it shows 'because it s actually in km!!

The correct way to rectify this would be to install a brand new UK speedo head reading 0 miles and make a note in you vehicle docs to say when and why it was replaced and at what km reading - ideally keeping the km head for reference/proof.
You could also do this with a s/h UK speedo and make a note of the mileage it showed when installed, possibly take dated photos as proof.
You could probably get a s/h speedo zeroed by someone such as Speedy Cables (or possibly GuessWorks?) as you have a legitimate reason.

You might need Guesswork's help to ensure you got a speedo with the correct tpm though, I'm not sure if there were different options for that type.

[Big Guns]

Yeah, I'm with Graeme on this. I would be VERY wary if someone told me the clock was recording in Klm's yet showing MPH on the dial.

[minisilverbullet]

Surely its not a problem!

Ok its a little more hassle when selling the car on. If someone doesnt believe you, then they will quickly come round on the test drive!

You mentioned that the car was imported from germany: is it LHD?

Also the odometer doesnt say its in miles: MPH - miles per hour. the odometer infact doesnt give any indication of units.

I say forget about it - put the white facia back on so it matches the rest of the dials: and enjoy your mini.

I certainly wouldnt go changig the speedo a "uk" speedo reset to zero as this would seriously put buyers off. The fact that your odometer reads km is no biggie!

[GraemeC]

Ok its a little more hassle when selling the car on. If someone doesnt believe you, then they will quickly come round on the test drive!

How will a test drive confirm the mileage of a car? On a 1995 car the mileage covered is likely to be an important factor in the value of the vehicle, irrespective of how it drives.

Also the odometer doesnt say its in miles: MPH - miles per hour. the odometer infact doesnt give any indication of units.

Correct, however it is accepted, and expected, that the odometer is calibrated in the same standard of units as the major units shown on the dial face. In this case, with the MPH ovelay, it isn't - it is displaying kilometers covered.
Putting a sticker on there has not changed the calibration of the speedo head from miles to kilometers.

I certainly wouldnt go changig the speedo a "uk" speedo reset to zero as this would seriously put buyers off.

Not if clearly and concisely documented with the date and reason for change and the readings of each speedo head at the time of change. It is common practice with imported vehicles, in fact I believe it is a requirement of the SVA test undertaken on vehicles imported from outside the EU for the speedo calibration to be corrected (but as this is imported from inside the EU and SVA would not be required).

[minisilverbullet]

Ok its a little more hassle when selling the car on. If someone doesnt believe you, then they will quickly come round on the test drive!

How will a test drive confirm the mileage of a car? On a 1995 car the mileage covered is likely to be an important factor in the value of the vehicle, irrespective of how it drives.

Also the odometer doesnt say its in miles: MPH - miles per hour. the odometer infact doesnt give any indication of units.

Correct, however it is accepted, and expected, that the odometer is calibrated in the same standard of units as the major units shown on the dial face. In this case, with the MPH ovelay, it isn't - it is displaying kilometers covered.
Putting a sticker on there has not changed the calibration of the speedo head from miles to kilometers.

I certainly wouldnt go changig the speedo a "uk" speedo reset to zero as this would seriously put buyers off.

Not if clearly and concisely documented with the date and reason for change and the readings of each speedo head at the time of change. It is common practice with imported vehicles, in fact I believe it is a requirement of the SVA test undertaken on vehicles imported from outside the EU for the speedo calibration to be corrected (but as this is imported from inside the EU and SVA would not be required).

Firstly if the buyer has any concerns that the odometer isnt in miles, then its as simple as a 10 test mile drive (or whatever)
: The odometer as its in km wont increase by 10, it will increase by 16: simple!

Yeah i agree that it should be excepted that the units on the odometer should match. but if they dont its not a problem, I had a japenese imported mx5 some years ago and it had the same sort of overlay on the speedo, so the odometer also read km, like in this case. I am certain that almost all direct jap imports will be the same.

[1995 MK2 IOM]

Surely its not a problem!

Ok its a little more hassle when selling the car on. If someone doesnt believe you, then they will quickly come round on the test drive!

You mentioned that the car was imported from germany: is it LHD?

Also the odometer doesnt say its in miles: MPH - miles per hour. the odometer infact doesnt give any indication of units.

I say forget about it - put the white facia back on so it matches the rest of the dials: and enjoy your mini.

I certainly wouldnt go changig the speedo a "uk" speedo reset to zero as this would seriously put buyers off. The fact that your odometer reads km is no biggie!

Thanks for ALL your replies.

The car used to be a LHD. its been converted to a RHD. (evidence of this is still on the carpets - yet to change them)

At least for me... its a bonus...as the previous owner told me it had done 62k ish miles... when in fact it had only done 38k. not too bad for a 1995 car...

thanks again

Jason

[1995 MK2 IOM]

Doesnt one of the members on here (MiniMonty ?) do "bespoke" clock facias.

I think I suggested that your speedo had been converted a few weeks ago, when you couldnt understand why the distances you travelled
didnt match up. At least this has confirmed that your speedo isnt faulty.

yeah I think you did.taken me a while to sort myself out with it hasn't it lol

This cold weather has put me off playing with it- bad enough having to work out in it anyway! (i'm a stone mason)

Thanks again

Jason