Hey,
Got my engine bits back so looking forward to building it back up soon
I have Torco engine lube from minispares to build it up with for the bearings etc
When it comes to filling the pump with oil and for the pistons before putting them in the bores is it okay if I use some Asda 20/50 oil?
When it comes to filling the engine with oil I plan to use Halfords oil to run it in and to run the engine on
Will the engine be okay to sit around for about 2 months, shall I be generous with the lube on the bearings?
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GreaseMonkey
, Feb 16 2010 04:59 PM
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Posted 16 February 2010 - 04:59 PM
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Posted 16 February 2010 - 05:41 PM
That's a good quality engine assembly lube you have there. Use it well and don't stint. It can't hurt to use a bit too much rather than too little.
Fill the pump with assembly lube as that will help it to self-prime when you first start the engine.
The 20w50 you have will be fine for lubricating the bores at build time and don't forget to fill the oil filter cartridge, and, if fitted, the oil cooler before connecting up the external parts of the oil system. Also pour oil into the 'banjo' bolt hole and the oil pressure relief valve hole whilst assembling.
If you are leaving it to stand for a while it's best to lightly grease the bores and put the plugs in and tape over the manifold face to keep moisture out.
Unless it's a warm day, when you want to first start the engine, put a fan heater to blow onto the sump for 1/2 an hour or so just to warm the oil and help the oil pump to suck up the oil and self-prime.
I hope all this helps.
Fill the pump with assembly lube as that will help it to self-prime when you first start the engine.
The 20w50 you have will be fine for lubricating the bores at build time and don't forget to fill the oil filter cartridge, and, if fitted, the oil cooler before connecting up the external parts of the oil system. Also pour oil into the 'banjo' bolt hole and the oil pressure relief valve hole whilst assembling.
If you are leaving it to stand for a while it's best to lightly grease the bores and put the plugs in and tape over the manifold face to keep moisture out.
Unless it's a warm day, when you want to first start the engine, put a fan heater to blow onto the sump for 1/2 an hour or so just to warm the oil and help the oil pump to suck up the oil and self-prime.
I hope all this helps.
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Posted 16 February 2010 - 07:37 PM
Many thanks Cooperman, so I can fill/prime the oil pump with the assembly lube?
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Posted 16 February 2010 - 10:31 PM
Personally -I would ditch the assembly lube - and just use lashings of 20W50! If the oil pump is to stand for a while before you will use the engine - put a mix of vaseline and 20W50 in it! Important thing when you go to start it is- crank it up on the starter until you see 50 psi on the gauge. Only then - put the plugs in and try to start it.
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Posted 16 February 2010 - 10:53 PM
A mix of Vaseline? You sure bmcecosse?
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Posted 16 February 2010 - 11:15 PM
Yes - but your 'lube' mixed with oil will likely do the same job!
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Posted 16 February 2010 - 11:30 PM
For the oil pump, some good 20W50 is fine.
Be sure to fill the oil filter as said above, and to run engine on starter with sparks out. If the engine has been set for a while after the build, before rennuning it on the starter, drown oil into the cylinders simply putting a very few drops of oil (dont be mad with the oil or the engine wont start..) through the plug holes.
Be sure to fill the oil filter as said above, and to run engine on starter with sparks out. If the engine has been set for a while after the build, before rennuning it on the starter, drown oil into the cylinders simply putting a very few drops of oil (dont be mad with the oil or the engine wont start..) through the plug holes.
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Posted 17 February 2010 - 09:38 AM
Use the lube - you have it and it is good stuff with lots of ZDDP in there to protect things on initial start up. Use it on all bearings, cam, followers etc but NOT in the bore or rings.
Use 20W50 in the ring grooves and in the bore - generously lubricate the bore and your piston ring compressor when fitting the pistons. Because of it's excellent lubrication properties build lube here may actually stop the rings bedding in properly.
Fill pump and filter with 20W50.
If the engine is to be left then I would dribble oil in the bore and turn it over a couple of time by hand evey now and again. As advised above try to seal off the ports and plug holes to prevent damp air getting in. If the head isn't on then a good smear of grease on the engine deck face and lightly in the bores and cover with cling film (similar for the head face).
When you eventually come to start the beast up - re-prime the pump down the oil pipe banjo hole whilst turning the engine over backwards. Once primed turn it over forwards a few times by hand if possible before turning over on the starter with the plugs removed - do NOT start the engine until pressure is achieved.
I would personally run the engine for the first 100 miles on the Asda oil - for initial ring bedding in the less additives the better. Then change the oil for the Halfords for the next 500-1000 miles and change again. Do not *baby cat* foot around for running in - drive the car normally from the get, just don't rag it or make it labour. High cylinder pressures help the rings bed by forcing them against the bore walls, driving under 2k rpm or whatever and building up does not - it is more likely to polish the bores.
(If you have a local motor factor see if they stock Comma Classic oil - exactly the same as the Halfords classic but about 2/3 price
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Use 20W50 in the ring grooves and in the bore - generously lubricate the bore and your piston ring compressor when fitting the pistons. Because of it's excellent lubrication properties build lube here may actually stop the rings bedding in properly.
Fill pump and filter with 20W50.
If the engine is to be left then I would dribble oil in the bore and turn it over a couple of time by hand evey now and again. As advised above try to seal off the ports and plug holes to prevent damp air getting in. If the head isn't on then a good smear of grease on the engine deck face and lightly in the bores and cover with cling film (similar for the head face).
When you eventually come to start the beast up - re-prime the pump down the oil pipe banjo hole whilst turning the engine over backwards. Once primed turn it over forwards a few times by hand if possible before turning over on the starter with the plugs removed - do NOT start the engine until pressure is achieved.
I would personally run the engine for the first 100 miles on the Asda oil - for initial ring bedding in the less additives the better. Then change the oil for the Halfords for the next 500-1000 miles and change again. Do not *baby cat* foot around for running in - drive the car normally from the get, just don't rag it or make it labour. High cylinder pressures help the rings bed by forcing them against the bore walls, driving under 2k rpm or whatever and building up does not - it is more likely to polish the bores.
(If you have a local motor factor see if they stock Comma Classic oil - exactly the same as the Halfords classic but about 2/3 price
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