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#1 west11

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 03:39 PM

What is the best way to be able to cut the whole for the gear leaver in the right place. I have a mk1 mini i am rebuilding and want to convert it from the magic wand gear shift to the early remote cast gear shift type. does anyone have any patterns to use or some ideas.

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 03:47 PM

What is the best way to be able to cut the whole for the gear leaver in the right place. I have a mk1 mini i am rebuilding and want to convert it from the magic wand gear shift to the early remote cast gear shift type. does anyone have any patterns to use or some ideas.


whaaat!!!! why are you converting it?

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 05:28 PM

Presumably you have the remote-type gearbox casing, as you can't convert the 'magic-wand' type casing to remote or rod change.

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 06:30 PM

If you're in no hurry I could take a tracing off my van which has been fitted with a remote, replacing the magic wand.... Wont be until tomorrow...

ps, what ya' doing with the magic wand box when you're done ?

Or there's an alternative *cough*

http://www.guess-wor.../NewProduct.htm

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 07:52 PM

And if you don't have the Cooper type diff cover to fit to your gearbox (yes - I know - they are supposedly machined all in one, but back in the day we swopped them about with no problems) - I do happen to have a remote type diff cover - but sadly not the remote itself, I sold that a while back!

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 12:55 PM

I fully agree that the diff covers are interchangeable, but recently I had a box on which I believe the covers had been swapped at some time and there was a step between the diff cover end face and the gearbox casing of around 0.010" due to machining tolerances. This had caused a significant oil leak as well as making the bearing pre-load a bit uncertain. All I could do was to emory as much of the step out as I could and refit the end cover using quite a bit of gasket-goo. It stopped the leak, but I thought it a bit of a 'bodge job' which I don't like doing.

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 01:22 PM

You used the correct term...

Bodge

and the problem with using 'gasket goo' as you so rightly put it is it covers the oil feed holes to the bush, so later on you're going to be rebushing the end covers...

The odds on finding a diff cover which matches exactly are long, if you have 40 or 50 cases to chose from then you may find 1 or two which are a 'good' match, personally if a diff cover or case are broken then it's not worth the storage space and is better being weighed in as scrap, as that is essentially what it is...

I've even had customers send me gearboxes with mismatched cases, their choice is, use their original case and there's no warranty, or re-case the box.

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 01:23 PM

Hi if you could do me a tracing when you have the time that would be great. i'm not ready to cut the whole yet, so when ever you have the time. I do have the remote gearbox casing which i'am going to have rebuilt as a straight cut close ratio box. Iam trying to build a cooper s replica like one of the goodwood race cars. If you could get back to me i would much appreciate it.

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 01:30 PM

Will be back down the unit later.... will take a sheet of drafting paper with me and a ruler...

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 03:47 PM

You used the correct term...

Bodge

and the problem with using 'gasket goo' as you so rightly put it is it covers the oil feed holes to the bush, so later on you're going to be rebushing the end covers...

The odds on finding a diff cover which matches exactly are long, if you have 40 or 50 cases to chose from then you may find 1 or two which are a 'good' match, personally if a diff cover or case are broken then it's not worth the storage space and is better being weighed in as scrap, as that is essentially what it is...

I've even had customers send me gearboxes with mismatched cases, their choice is, use their original case and there's no warranty, or re-case the box.


With those boxes and covers becoming less easily available as time passes, it would be straightforward to lightly skim the end faces to ensure compatibility, but when presented with a leaking end cover seal on an installed engine, a 'bodge' is the only answer. It gives a bit more time before the whole lot will be coming out for re-furb. I just hate having to do jobs like that, as I'm sure you do.

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 11:58 PM

Sorry to hyjack the thread but is anyone using one of theses hybrid boxes from guessworks as i am very interested in this for my new mk1 project.
I take it that an A+ 1275 engine will fit straight on one of theses boxes? and i can use the A+transfer gears and verto clutch?
kind regards Steve

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 05:33 PM

Will be back down the unit later.... will take a sheet of drafting paper with me and a ruler...

did you manage to get some measurments and a quick drawing.




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