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#1 minisilverbullet

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 02:43 PM

96 SPI

the mini passed its mot today.... phew!!

Athough i had a comment about the "steadyness" of the engine. which is no biggie, just means that next year the tester will look out for it.

I have the uprated bushes on the top steady bar. I am now wondering whether to fit the "ultimate engine steady". the one that fits round the thermostat housing, my question is where does the other end go? The car is LHD but i see minispares have the kit for LHD - http://minispares.co...ty=pb&pid=34269

Or can soemone reccommend an alternative steady?

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 02:56 PM

the other end fit onto the blanking plate where the brake and clutch cylinder would be on a rhd car

Edited by danie garry, 08 April 2010 - 07:57 PM.


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Posted 08 April 2010 - 06:17 PM

Ok i see thats not the UES for my car as it has the thermo sandwich plate. In that case, i assume that any UES for an injection mini should fit? as the engine bay is exactly the same?

Also do you need to drill holes in the bulkhead or are there holes to use?

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 06:36 PM

i was going to do this then heard loads of horror stories where it snapped the head bolts and was a right pain to fit

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 07:34 PM

I might be wrong, but isn't your link of the wrong type for your 96 SPi? You're 96 SPi has a thermostat sandwich plate doesn't it, much like the Mainstream Mini Cooper I have.

So I'd say you really need part no. EL59, which is also known as 'the injection type' (I don't think Mini Spares stock it though?).

Edited by taffy1967, 08 April 2010 - 07:35 PM.


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Posted 08 April 2010 - 07:44 PM

gearbox steadys might be worth a thought ;)

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 07:45 PM

I might be wrong, but isn't your link of the wrong type for your 96 SPi? You're 96 SPi has a thermostat sandwich plate doesn't it, much like the Mainstream Mini Cooper I have.

So I'd say you really need part no. EL59, which is also known as 'the injection type' (I don't think Mini Spares stock it though?).



Yeah i noticed that shortly after i posted. yeah thats right they dont stock it, plently others do though.

Minibonkerz - yeah i just seen that too, I guess if your not relying on it to steady the enfine on its own it should be ok`? or?

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 07:47 PM

gearbox steadys might be worth a thought ;)



iv seen these, can you suggest one?

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 07:56 PM

http://www.minispeed...lizers-brackets


i'm making my own but these might be worth a go ;)

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 08:07 PM

do all these "ultimate steadies" require holes drilling in the bulkhead/subframe?

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 08:08 PM

in the subframe yes, the bracket supplied with them normally bolts to the gearbox i believe

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 08:09 PM

do all these "ultimate steadies" require holes drilling in the bulkhead/subframe?



The thermostat type doesn't, because it just uses what bolts are already fitted.

There's provision for 4 bolts on the bulkhead end and the instructions recommend you drill a hole for the 4th bolt (there's only 3 as standard). But it's not necessary for road use.

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 10:11 PM

just wondering what condition are your lower engine mounts in? this could lead to engine movement,
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Posted 09 April 2010 - 08:02 PM

just wondering what condition are your lower engine mounts in? this could lead to engine movement,
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They are original, and arent cracked or "squashed". but for what they cost i may as well change them. Although is it as "easy" as the top steady. I guess at least i can access it a bit better (SPI).

I fitted these to the top http://minispares.co... BUSH POLYURETH... can i also use the same on the lower stabilizer?

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 10:35 AM

do all these "ultimate steadies" require holes drilling in the bulkhead/subframe?



The thermostat type doesn't, because it just uses what bolts are already fitted.

There's provision for 4 bolts on the bulkhead end and the instructions recommend you drill a hole for the 4th bolt (there's only 3 as standard). But it's not necessary for road use.


With LHD I believe you have to drill the bulkhead as the studs used by RHD steadies are already occupied by the pedal box and master cyinders, etc.

I used to use an ultimate steady but it was a pain in the backside every time you need to do any work at that end of the engine - on my 1380 I used the standard top steady and both the lower gearbox steadies which go towards the back of the car - this one on the right hand side. and this one on the left hand side. I used slightly uprated bushes in all three steadies and had absolutely no problems with engine movement.

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