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[Pitcrew6464]

Hi all paint guys are panel wipe, thinners and gun cleaner the same?

[Pitcrew6464]

think i may have just had a div moment

[mini-geek]

NO

[Ethel]

Actually they're all solvents just of varying quality with a few additives. You could use good quality thinners for all 3 jobs.

[mini-geek]

no you couldn't

[Ethel]

Why? Admittedly it may well be less than ideal as a cleaner, as well as more expensive, but I can remember using it for all jobs back in the day and if anyone is doing a small job it may prove cheaper than buying 3 products.

no you couldn't

[82hle]

Why? Admittedly it may well be less than ideal as a cleaner, as well as more expensive, but I can remember using it for all jobs back in the day and if anyone is doing a small job it may prove cheaper than buying 3 products.

no you couldn't

You can use thinners to clean then gun but if you use it to wipe over panels you will remove some paint especially if freshly applied.
I've never used proper panel wipe, but I don't think it's thinners, it's more a solvent to remove grease and wax etc.
FWIW thinners will not dissolve the good quality cataphoretic paint applied to the better quality panels. - it will get the cheaper matt(er) black paint off the cheaper parts. - It will also get the labels off pretty well. I did exactly this just the other day.
Mart.

[Pitcrew6464]

cheers for the reply it was a matter of typing before thinking on this subject lol

[mini-geek]

I realise the OP has got there answer now.....

Why? Admittedly it may well be less than ideal as a cleaner, as well as more expensive, but I can remember using it for all jobs back in the day and if anyone is doing a small job it may prove cheaper than buying 3 products.

no you couldn't

because gunwash and paint thnners have other things in them. so if you use them to clean a panel it will leave deposits on the panel. panel wipe is to remove silicone and draw out remaining moisture from the surface.

if you are going todo a job do it properly also panel wipe can be used for lots of jobs it's well worth having.

[Senile Old Git]

Considering the price of paint / laquer these days I would recommend NEVER skimping on preparation materials, it just might come back to bite you in the pocket and force you to start again.

Also we always use tack rags to catch the last bits of dust

[midridge2]

gun wash = recycled thinners
thinners = different types eg, gun wash for cleaning out the gun, standard for primmer and first coats of paint, premium thinners for gloss /top coats, anti bloom etc.
panel wipe = not thinners but solvent for removing wax, grease etc.

( because gunwash and paint thnners have other things in them. so if you use them to clean a panel it will leave deposits on the panel. panel wipe is to remove silicone and draw out remaining moisture from the surface)) never heard of it drawing out moisture on the surface.

using celly thinners as a panel wipe on celly paint if left to long will soften the paint and drag it across the surface.

[mini-geek]

never heard of it drawing out moisture on the surface.

yes I can't prove it works but have been advised that it dose work, we often use it if filler gets wet and after wet flatting.

[panelbeaterpeter]

What midridge has said is spot on. I've never heard of using panel wipe to get rid of moisture either, although I'm not saying it doesn't work.

[mini-geek]

I will speak to my rep.......... intrigued now.

[AdamBilsy]

I will speak to my rep.......... intrigued now.

Dont quote me on this, But I think the alcohol in the PanelWipe mixes with the liquid/moisture on the surface then evaporates.