i am fitting new ball joints to my hubs and according to the haynes manual i am supposed to put the locking washer and the grease nipple on first then the seat and then all the available the shims then fit the pin and the nut and fully tighten it up check the movement "it should be quite slack with considerable up and down movement" i should then take out washers until "it is possible to move the ball-pin in all directions , without binding but with slight resistance to movement being felt"
well with all the available shims witted and the nut tightened to 102nm or 75lbf ft i couldn't move it with a hammer (not that i have tried with a hammer YET) it sits solid as a rock how much do i need to put under as shims?
As it seams now i will need to put a washer there and the shim it up
thanks for any help
michael
Ball Joint Question
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kez_19
, May 03 2010 01:16 PM
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leepol83
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Posted 03 May 2010 - 01:42 PM
Go on youtube and type in mini ball joint in videos and theres a guy on there who shows you how to do it. apparently you should make them abit tighter than he shows it thow. I had a post like this just a week ago and this is what I was told to do.i am fitting new ball joints to my hubs and according to the haynes manual i am supposed to put the locking washer and the grease nipple on first then the seat and then all the available the shims then fit the pin and the nut and fully tighten it up check the movement "it should be quite slack with considerable up and down movement" i should then take out washers until "it is possible to move the ball-pin in all directions , without binding but with slight resistance to movement being felt"
well with all the available shims witted and the nut tightened to 102nm or 75lbf ft i couldn't move it with a hammer (not that i have tried with a hammer YET) it sits solid as a rock how much do i need to put under as shims?
As it seams now i will need to put a washer there and the shim it up
thanks for any help
michael
Hope this helps
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Posted 03 May 2010 - 02:14 PM
It's trial and error really, add shims, torque up, too loose, remove a shim, torque up, bit more loose, etc...
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Posted 03 May 2010 - 02:18 PM
yeah that's what the haynes manual says but with all the shims in that came with the kit it is solid and i cant move it
i have started to watch the video on youtube and will be trying their advice later to see if its any better
michael
i have started to watch the video on youtube and will be trying their advice later to see if its any better
michael
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Posted 03 May 2010 - 02:27 PM
i am fitting new ball joints to my hubs and according to the haynes manual i am supposed to put the locking washer and the grease nipple on first then the seat and then all the available the shims then fit the pin and the nut and fully tighten it up check the movement "it should be quite slack with considerable up and down movement" i should then take out washers until "it is possible to move the ball-pin in all directions , without binding but with slight resistance to movement being felt"
well with all the available shims witted and the nut tightened to 102nm or 75lbf ft i couldn't move it with a hammer (not that i have tried with a hammer YET) it sits solid as a rock how much do i need to put under as shims?
As it seams now i will need to put a washer there and the shim it up
thanks for any help
michael
there should be no movement up and down if there is can cause failure
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kez_19
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Posted 03 May 2010 - 02:53 PM
there is no movement at all that's the problem
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Posted 03 May 2010 - 03:24 PM
Trial and error.
You're pretty much just taking apart and putting it back together.
Theres no trick, no shortcut, just get on with it.
You're pretty much just taking apart and putting it back together.
Theres no trick, no shortcut, just get on with it.
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Posted 03 May 2010 - 04:15 PM
yeah that's what the haynes manual says but with all the shims in that came with the kit it is solid and i cant move it
i have started to watch the video on youtube and will be trying their advice later to see if its any better
michael
My kit didn't come with enough shims either. I had to use some from the old ball joints, and even then it wasn't enough!
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Posted 03 May 2010 - 05:05 PM
Hi,
Be careful when you do this, the first one I
did (read hungover) the dished washer that goes in first
didn,t sit correctly in its space leaving the ball joint sitting high
you could see something was wrong as the dome nut
was not sitting on the lock tab washer.
Hope that made sence.
John
Be careful when you do this, the first one I
did (read hungover) the dished washer that goes in first
didn,t sit correctly in its space leaving the ball joint sitting high
you could see something was wrong as the dome nut
was not sitting on the lock tab washer.
Hope that made sence.
John
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