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[russ_1380]

'Ello!

Just a quick question really.

When I've completed my project (primarily a fast road minus) i'm toying with the idea of having a couple of track days and maybe even hillclimb if i get a taste for it.

As I'm building the car up now I'm starting to read up on motorsport clubs for beginners. What I can't find a clear answer on is this; do I need a FIA cage and FIA bucket seats for hillclimbing? Do they have to be approved by any official body or is it just the scrutineers on the day?

I am presuming I will be classed as a kit car?

From what I understand FIA compliable is only needed for rally or circuit racing? or have I got this completely wrong?

I'm just trying to cost out options for the cage and buckets you see. FIA ones seem to be a fair bit dearer and have expiry dates

[GreenMini17]

It depends which class you enter on the hillclimb, if you enter the modified class, i believe you may need to have FIA approved cage, seats and harness.

If you enter the road-going class, you can use any seats/harnesses and no cage. (for this class you can enter a standard road car!)

It maybe worth while getting hold of/downloading the MSA blue book as this will have all the details for the classes you need.

you may also need to consider a fire extinguisher (hand held/plumbed in)

And another thing you will definatley need is race wear. You will need helmet (BS Type A-FR or Snell SA2005 standard) (Arai, Bell, Sparco etc)

Race suit (I believe it now has to be at least 2 layer Nomex Fireproof FIA approved suit)

Gloves (for some strange reason, these can be ISO approved rather than Nomex fireproof!)

Boots (again, im not sure on these, I think they do not have to be nomex fireproof but again its worth reading the blue book to find out)

It would really be worth getting the MSA blue book as this will give you all the regs and classes you need to think about.

Hope this helps!

[Wil_h]

You will compete in the roadgoing specialist production class. I'm not 100% on all the regs, but I see no reason for a cage. even if you did fit one it would need to be MSA compliant, not FIA.

Again, although rallying requiures FIA harnesses, it is not required in hillclimbing and in a roadgoing class it's not specified.

[rwick76]

For hillclimbs especially, you will obv need to comply with the regs. Most of the main events are run under the MSA (Motorsport Association). If you want to know what you need you need to source whats known as the 'blue book'

I compete in UK motorsport but I currently race Karts at national level and this book applies for all classes from karts, single seaters, rallys and hillclimbs. Its got most of the regs required and especially has a high emphasis on safety features.

http://www.msauk.org...asp?article=771

Dont exactly know where to get a book from, Its been that long since I had to get one because It now comes every year with my new competition licence. You may be worth getting a get started pack.

http://shop.msauk.or...=...2&pagenum=1

Hope this helps

[russ_1380]

Excellent

I will have a look and contact the Association to see what they think my car will be classed as.

Cheers

Russ

[Cooperman]

When you buy or renew your MSA Competition Licence you automatially get a Blue Book. If you intend on competing this year, then get your lience now as they all expire on Dec 31st and you save nothing by waiting. The Blue Book will arrive with your licence. You an download an MSA licence application form.