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#1 jamesh1988

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 08:42 PM

As title,
Done a search but cant find anything.

what do I need to do this? and how do I go about it?

any help is appreciated.


Thanks

Just to add its only the wiring as I am changing the engine (and the engine going in uses a inertia starter but wiring in car is for pre engaged)

Edited by jamesh1988, 14 June 2010 - 08:45 PM.


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Posted 15 June 2010 - 10:06 AM

You will need an old style starter solenoid, and a short piece of battery cable terminated with 8mm rings at each end.

For simplicity, i fixed my solenoid to the lip of the front panel just in front of the starter, this eliminates extensive moving of the wires. the cable that comes from the battery goes to one of the larger terminals along with the other brown wires for power to the fuses etc and from the other large terminal on the solenoid, the new short HD cable goes to the starter.

then all you need to do is connect the wire from the start relay that energised the pre engaged starter to the small spade terminal on the solenoid and as long as you have a good earthed fixing on the solenoid, all should be good to go.

If you place your solenoid in the same place as me, remember to shield it from splashed water and rain.

here are a few pictures of mine for you.

A general shot so you can see where everything is.

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and a couple of angles for the connections.

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Edited by customcart, 15 June 2010 - 10:21 AM.


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Posted 15 June 2010 - 12:03 PM

thanks for that just what I needed cheers

#4 RobG295

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 09:04 PM

Is it possible to run the pre engaged solenoid on an inertia type starter? Haven't really had a good look at the wiring on a pre-engaged starter so not sure if you can rewire the standard solenoid to match up with the inertia starter.

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 05:24 PM

Any ideas?

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 05:38 PM

Is it possible to run the pre engaged solenoid on an inertia type starter? Haven't really had a good look at the wiring on a pre-engaged starter so not sure if you can rewire the standard solenoid to match up with the inertia starter.

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NO! Unless I am not getting the question, they are worlds different.Inertia or bendix type starters can use any 3 pole inertia solenoid capable of carrying the amps but its remotely mounted,can be in the boot! Pre engaged solenoid is part of the starter and is useless on its own,specific to its starter

Edited by PIGEONTO, 01 July 2010 - 05:51 PM.


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Posted 01 July 2010 - 09:38 PM

Cheers for that mate. Was hoping they were only mounted ontop of the starter so I could get away with just re-mounting it on an inertia starter....need to go buy myself a solenoid then.

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 07:17 PM

You will need an old style starter solenoid, and a short piece of battery cable terminated with 8mm rings at each end.

For simplicity, i fixed my solenoid to the lip of the front panel just in front of the starter, this eliminates extensive moving of the wires. the cable that comes from the battery goes to one of the larger terminals along with the other brown wires for power to the fuses etc and from the other large terminal on the solenoid, the new short HD cable goes to the starter.

then all you need to do is connect the wire from the start relay that energised the pre engaged starter to the small spade terminal on the solenoid and as long as you have a good earthed fixing on the solenoid, all should be good to go.

If you place your solenoid in the same place as me, remember to shield it from splashed water and rain.

here are a few pictures of mine for you.

A general shot so you can see where everything is.

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and a couple of angles for the connections.

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 07:18 PM

You will need an old style starter solenoid, and a short piece of battery cable terminated with 8mm rings at each end.

For simplicity, i fixed my solenoid to the lip of the front panel just in front of the starter, this eliminates extensive moving of the wires. the cable that comes from the battery goes to one of the larger terminals along with the other brown wires for power to the fuses etc and from the other large terminal on the solenoid, the new short HD cable goes to the starter.

then all you need to do is connect the wire from the start relay that energised the pre engaged starter to the small spade terminal on the solenoid and as long as you have a good earthed fixing on the solenoid, all should be good to go.

If you place your solenoid in the same place as me, remember to shield it from splashed water and rain.

here are a few pictures of mine for you.

A general shot so you can see where everything is.

Posted Image

and a couple of angles for the connections.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 03:40 PM

THREAD REVIVAL!!!!  :whistling:

 

iv been reading through this and i just want to make 100% i need the 4 terminal solenoid and not 3 terminal to fit a 1985 inertia starter in my 1993 car. http://www.minispare...|Back to search not http://www.minispare...|Back to search

this looks cool though http://www.minispare...|Back to search



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 04:27 PM

The 3-terminal brick shaped solenoid is for cars with the inertial starter and "standard" ignition systems.  The 4-terminal solenoid is for cars with the inertia starter and "ballast" ignition systems.  Choose whichever is correct for your application.  If you are not sure, buy the 4-terminal solenoid as it can be used for either application... you simply would not have to use the 4th terminal.

 

Do not buy the round solenoid with the pushbutton.  These are modern reproductions of the original Lucas part.  I cannot stress enough what garbage these modern, off-shore reproductions are.  They typically fail within the first year of use.  The only reason for having them is to retain the original look on an early car.  Functionally, the pushbutton feature can easily be duplicated with the later brick shaped solenoids.  All that is required is to place the gearbox in neutral and tap a short jumper wire between the battery feed to the solenoid and the small spade terminal with the wire from the ignition switch.  



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 06:11 PM

wow cool thank you thats really helpful :)



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 01:10 PM

iv wired mine in as above and i have power to the radio etc but when i go to turn it over it just clicks, doesnt even try to engage. any ideas?



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 03:18 PM

Please post a picture of your solenoid and the wires on it and if possible a picture that shows how you have run the cable between the solenoid and starter motor.  If you cannot post a picture, give very careful text descriptions of what wire colors are on each solenoid terminal and how you have routed the cable between the solenoid and starter.



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 04:57 PM

iv wired it wrong, all fine now though. i re checked it all with a mate and i had made a silly mistake. thanks anyway






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