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[AVV IT]

Clarification needed to settle a recent discussion/ argument in the pub about how someone got their "off the road" mini to a garage? So is it legal to tow a car with a SORN (No Tax, No MOT etc) from A to B using a tow rope as opposed to putting it on a trailer?

[danrock101]

yes

[Carlos W]

yes

It's got to be insured, and you should be using a rigid bar!

[jayare]

No it's not - if any of the wheels of the car are on the road it needs to be taxed unless being driven to a pre-booked MoT test,

JR

[AVV IT]

yes

It's got to be insured, and you should be using a rigid bar!

Interesting point about insurance...... surely the tow car is responsible for any damage as a result of anything it's towing (at least that's how it works for trailers/ caravans etc) Plus the fact that motor insurance isn't valid without tax or MOT any way.... is it?

[Carlos W]

yes

It's got to be insured, and you should be using a rigid bar!

Interesting point about insurance...... surely the tow car is responsible for any damage as a result of anything it's towing (at least that's how it works for trailers/ caravans etc) Plus the fact that motor insurance isn't valid without tax or MOT any way.... is it?

It's a vehicle in its own right so needs to be insured!

Clearly there is much debate on this subject, ring the police up and ask their advice, reocrd the date and time of your call, and if they'll give you it, the name and force number of the person you spoke to, then if you get stopped you have a good come back!

[Kam]

No it's not - if any of the wheels of the car are on the road it needs to be taxed unless being driven to a pre-booked MoT test,

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thats all you need to know next time your in the pub

[Kaison]

You could get someone else to drive your car or you could drive someone else's car as long as you or they are covered to drive other cars by the insurance company and you've booked your mot

Edited by Kaison, 13 September 2010 - 08:22 PM.

[Carlos W]

You could get someone else to drive your car or you could drive someone else's car as long as you or they are covered to drive other cars by the insurance company and you've booked your mot

That isn't true, to be able to drive other cars on your policy the car you are driving has to be insured too unless you have a traders policy!

[MiniGT5]

Just get a motor trade policy then you can drive any car without tax or MOT

N.

[Dan]

As above, the ONLY time a SORN vehicle may touch the road surface is on its way to or from the MOT.

Insurance is usually the same, if you don't have tax or MOT you have third party cover to drive to the MOT. You may NOT drive to the Post Office to buy the tax afterwards however. Essentially, you must have insurance first before you do anything else.

[Jordie]

or unless the vehicle is on an A-frame which technically classes it as a trailer, but then you open another tin of worms

- a frame is a tool approved for recovery only. (IE. to the nearest safe place)
- towing a car with an A frame, basically makes the towed car a trailer (behind the towing car) which then means anything over 750kgs needs to be braked. Most cars are over 750kgs on an A-frame includings minis but there is no way to operate the car brakes from the hitch, so technically illegal.
- towed vehicle must display all trailer lighting and warnings (triangles, reflectors etc) - most peeps use a trailer board to do this.

[Deathrow]

I'd just like to stress:

If you are not 100% sure you have the correct answer to a question like this, please don't respond.

If the OP had gone out and used the first persons advice, he would have commited an offence.

[danrock101]

or unless the vehicle is on an A-frame which technically classes it as a trailer, but then you open another tin of worms

- a frame is a tool approved for recovery only. (IE. to the nearest safe place)
- towing a car with an A frame, basically makes the towed car a trailer (behind the towing car) which then means anything over 750kgs needs to be braked. Most cars are over 750kgs on an A-frame includings minis but there is no way to operate the car brakes from the hitch, so technically illegal.
- towed vehicle must display all trailer lighting and warnings (triangles, reflectors etc) - most peeps use a trailer board to do this.

I'm pretty sure a A-frame is illegal too, without insurance, tax and MoT

[Dan]

An A frame is not legal for a SORN car either, it must not turn any wheel on the road. Driven wheel or not, none of them must touch the road. People (some members in fact I seem to remember) have been given the full back tax and fine treatment for having their SORN car parked with one tyre on public land.