26 replies to this topic

[Pitcrew6464]

Hi everyone when fitting a standard mini/metro turbo engine to a standard mini will the bulkhead need to be modified?

[wolfie]

yes unless you use a mirage manifold and a t2

you can also have a custom manifold for a gt17 made by matty on TM i am sure these clear but check with him

Edited by wolfie, 14 October 2010 - 08:46 PM.

[Pitcrew6464]

Thanks for the quick reply, what is the minimum modification required as i really didnt want to add one of those massive boxes!

[WRLondon]

turbos are ALOT of work
new fuel lines, petrol tank, cutting out most of the bulkhead
upgrade fuel pump, oil pump

then theres the cost of a decent turbo engine
most of the metro ones will need a rebuild

then theres upgrading the brakes etc.

no light project
as wolfie said
check out turbo minis (google it)
and if your still up for it go for it...

[wolfie]

even with the turbo bulkhead box the clearences are tight, most canter the engine forward slightly and shave the corner in order to have more actuator clearance

to be fair the t3 is as ancient as turbos get if i was going to do another i would look at the t2, "some say" the mirage manifolds dont flow well but nic of turbominis has one of and possibly the most powerful 5 port A series without nitrous in existance so the manifolds must be capable of producing the goods

again i would speak to matty of turbominis as he is currently making a batch of manifolds for the gt17 and this turbo is a step up from the t2

[wolfie]

turbos are ALOT of work
new fuel lines, petrol tank, cutting out most of the bulkhead
upgrade fuel pump, oil pump

then theres the cost of a decent turbo engine
most of the metro ones will need a rebuild

then theres upgrading the brakes etc.

no light project
as wolfie said
check out turbo minis (google it)
and if your still up for it go for it...

i would agree on most of that however you can chuck in a spi or mpi tank and re-running of fuel lines is only a couple of hrs work, pretty much else i do agree with

expense goes really into rebuild of the engine even a light freshen up will cost upwards of £500 and any turbo engine will need looking over as there all 20years + now

have a search on TM and turbophils site theres huge amounts of info there even if your not a TM site fan

[Pitcrew6464]

thanks for the replys, this is no light project so dont worry and photos of bulkhead modifications would be greatly appreciated! ill get on TM also thanks

[Turbo Nick]

This is NOT my car.....before the IVA nazi's start wetting their knickers.

Edited by bud666, 15 October 2010 - 11:47 AM.

[Bungle]

Monococque.

Q) What is the definition of a monococque ?

A) A design in which body and chassis are all one unit.

Q) Why does cutting into a monococque affect the vehicle identity if it retains the same shape /profile as before.

A) Cutting is considered to be modifying the vehicle from its original specification. Any modification to the chassis/monocoque body is considered to render the vehicle no longer original specification or of original identity.

Q) Is it acceptable to modify a vehicle bulkhead and/or transmission tunnel when performing an engine change or fitting another make?

A) No, Assuming this is in relation to a monocoque structure. This would be considered a modification to the structure.

more info listed on the ACE web site linked below

[wolfie]

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[Robbie]

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My thoughts exactly. It may be news to some of you but apparently you need an SVA for a bulkhead box!!! If only we were told more often!

[wolfie]

surley sva depends on when it was done mines been in 9 + years

[pikey7]

As far as I am are, vosa do have the power to recheck any vehicle that was modified on or after july 1 1998... when the SVA was introduced. How they can prove the date of a weld...?

but as usual with anything from a government agency, it's all as clear as mud.

[Pitcrew6464]

Thanks for the replys but it gets frustraighting with these silly rules if a bulkhead modification is done correctly it can me as strong as the standard panel! Surely when ERA minis were made they must have had something similar !!!

[Bungle]

surley sva depends on when it was done mines been in 9 + years

i thought the rules were 27 years old, it's just the name of the test that has changed