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[cradley-heathen]

on my old mini i had a set of those 5x10 coopers s style wheels available from minispeed, and my dad still has a set on his car. essentially they are a wheel with a big offset and a built in spacer in the back so that you can use tye wheel with 8.4 discs and calipers.

i have measured from the rear of the wheel rim to the hub mounting face and its 53mmm (using 2 steel rules) does anyone else have a measurement similar to this from their wheels?

i have measured a 5x10 kn minilight style at 90mm
and a minator 6x10 which i think was 87mm

with a spacer it would be possible to make the golden figure of 53mm but im wondering if there may be a wheel better suited to the task.

i would prefer not to get into a conversation about big spacers and affecteing handling etc if possible, i am aware of the effects.

please help! pics of wheels would also be usefull, thanks.

[Bungle]

have you tried a steel weller wheel ?

[fastcarl]

on my old mini i had a set of those 5x10 coopers s style wheels available from minispeed, and my dad still has a set on his car. essentially they are a wheel with a big offset and a built in spacer in the back so that you can use tye wheel with 8.4 discs and calipers.

i have measured from the rear of the wheel rim to the hub mounting face and its 53mmm (using 2 steel rules) does anyone else have a measurement similar to this from their wheels?

i have measured a 5x10 kn minilight style at 90mm
and a minator 6x10 which i think was 87mm

with a spacer it would be possible to make the golden figure of 53mm but im wondering if there may be a wheel better suited to the task.

i would prefer not to get into a conversation about big spacers and affecteing handling etc if possible, i am aware of the effects.

please help! pics of wheels would also be usefull, thanks.

what do you meen by better suited to the task, what is the task?, is it purely to allow the use of the 8.4 brakes . what type of mini would they be used on,

carl

[cradley-heathen]

well the task is getting a 10" wheel to fit with 8.4" brakes?

what i meant by more suited, is a wheel with allot of offset, not the comparatively flat couple i have tried already.

the car its to go on is a fast road/ track day car.


i havnt tried a wellar, but must admit i would rather not to be honest, im not a huge fan.


any suggestions for a wheel to try guys????

[RayBoogs]

i Know you said you dont like wellers, but i know that 6x10 and 5x10 wellers can be fitted over 8.4" brakes with an inch spacer, becasue of the big offset.

But also why don't you convert yor brakes so there able to take any 10" wheel?

[wolfie]

i agree ray, personally i really dont like the idea of spacers on the front not sure exactly how safe they are but i would imagine it puts alot of strain on the studs but could be wrong

[RayBoogs]

Yeah I imagine the stress would be increased and worsen depending on the width and offset of the wheel, the best thing to do would be to convert your disc's in my oppinion, also if its to be a track car I'd imagine safety will be a priority so any un-nessacary stress on your wheels will want to be avioded.

Jack

Edited by RayBoogs, 18 October 2010 - 06:51 PM.

[cradley-heathen]

the problem with converting the brakes is the COST!

i have used the cooper s style wheels (the ones i described earlier) for years on my other minis and had no trouble at all, one in everyday use and one for track days. no wheel bearing fails or other such problems.

spacers are perfectly safe, if they are decent quality (i.e. not the ones with the bolt on stud extensions) you would encounter problems if the wheel nuts were loose, but thats the same with or without spacers.

i will let you know when i find some rims to do the job. thanks anyway gents.

[wolfie]

if you cant afford the look safely then dont do it

you could get a machinist to take the 8.4 disks down to 7.5 and buy cheap minispares cooper s calipers all for under £200

i bought there 4 pots and machined down a new set of pagid 4 groove disks, stopping powere is fantastic yet cost less than a cooper s setup

[cradley-heathen]

i have used KAD 4 pots with grooved s discs and green stuff pads on my older mini and can honestly say they wernt great, on track days they would overheat really quickly, and when i took them off the centres of the discs (the bell if you like) had gone blue!

and had a set of cast 4 pots from mini spares years ago on my first mini with turned down vented discs and can pretty much say the same for them, they didnt overheat they just didnt stop too well. i MY opinion small discs just dont cut ita on a highly tuned mini (not that the one i drive now is highly tuned sadly)

so besides the cost as i stated earlier, i just dont get on with them, hence prefering to go for 8.4" setup and spacers.

i have never heard of any accidents caused by spacers and i have been in the trade for quite a while now, if they were that unsafe im sure all the manufacturers would be in serious legal trouble or would stop producing them

anyway were getting off subject here, all i wanted to know is if anyone is aware of some 10" alloys with big offsets?

[paul6266]

slotmags have a huge offset

[MiniGT5]

Just go with split rims then you can have whatever you spec as your offset. I think you are after the same spec as the miglia boys use

N.

[tomgale]

10x6 weller 4 spokes (look a bit like slotmags, but steel and only four spokes)





dont need a spacer if your brakes are outside your wheels......