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[Stevee]

Hello everyone right today i got some information on the gangsters "The Kray Twins" now what im about to tell you maybe known or not to any of you but trust me it is all true

bit be hide the Kray's

Reginald "Reggie" Kray (24 October 1933 – 1 October 2000) and his twin brother Ronald "Ronnie" Kray (24 October 1933 – 17 March 1995) were the foremost perpetrators of organised crime in London's East End during the 1950s and 1960s. Ronald, commonly referred to as Ron or Ronnie, suffered from paranoid schizophrenia.[1] The Krays were involved in armed robberies, arson, protection rackets, violent assaults including torture and the murders of Jack "The Hat" McVitie and George Cornell. As West End nightclub owners, they mixed with prominent entertainers including Diana Dors, Frank Sinatra, Judy Garland and politicians. The Krays were highly feared within their social environment, and in the 1960s they became celebrities in their own right being photographed by David Bailey and interviewed on television. They were arrested on 9 May 1968 and convicted in 1969 by the efforts of a squad of detectives led by Detective Superintendent Leonard "Nipper" Read, and were both sentenced to life imprisonment.
Ronnie remained in Broadmoor Hospital until his death on 17 March 1995, but Reggie was released from prison on compassionate grounds in August 2000, eight weeks before his death in October from cancer.

for on http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Kray_twins


BUT bit I'm getting to now

They owned a Mark 1 Mini Cooper S

now iv been told what this car looks like but remembering everything is going to be hard but it was Old English white with black roof with cream fluffy carpets inside ill try get the rest of the cars info

this car was sold straight from the Kray twins to a friend of mines friend in the late 60's just before they went down for there crimes

this car ended up in a village out side of Kettering either Broughton or Cransley, my friends friend had this car for a fair few years and he now no longer owns it but would be nice to find it ill try find the reg all the info i can give at the moment

if anyone else has any information and would like to add to this they can please id personal like to find out some more about there cooper s and them
ill try update this as and when i find more out

thanks Steve

information supplied by a reliable source

[maggies_minder]

hopefully your reliable source isnt wikipedia

[Stevee]

hopefully your reliable source isnt wikipedia

No it was from the guy i work with he new the mini well why i know what it looked like and he friend was saying about it today aswell

wiki just happened to have info on thier lifes not the cars they owned

ill try get abit more info out of him tomorrow about it

just thinking someone else might know something about it

[maggies_minder]

i reckon if you owned this mini, and found out about its former owners you could add a few quid to the asking price.

[Stevee]

yeah you could ill try find the reg plate out tomorrow for it

but being owned by 2 gangsters is pretty damn cool if you ask me

be wicked if you owned a car from like Sir Michael Caine

[Davethepioneer]

Found this on google..........it was below a picture of oew mini

All the identification numbers are correct and in the correct places all confirmed and dated by British Motor Heritage. It is a Stage 5 Touring Downton conversion with the correct Downton Cylinder head identification numbers are correct ie Job number, Skim, CC per cylinder all stamped, Carburettors are the very rare SU H2. The only parts that were changed on the car was the brake servo from type 6 inch to the correct 5.5 inch. The Downton conversion itself would command £2.000 if this car was put back to standard spec, The car has Factory recliners , factory fitted radio, original Carpets and headlining, The car comes on again very rare 3.5 J wheels, All the glass date stamps are correct Triplex for 1969, The Car also comes with factory hand book and BMC approved Accessories book, Has featured in The Cooper register Magazine August 2004 and Feb 2005 The Sunday Mirror, Mini Magazine, and Classic Cars. The car is reported to have been originally owned by an associate of the Kray twins an indeed was impounded by the Met for some 8 years I have the arresting document dating 14/8/70 the car being registered Dec 1969 it only had 8 month on the road confiming the very low milage still below 7,760 miles. The Car is reported to be the most original Cooper S MK11 in existence today.


So was it one of the Krays or someone they knew?

[midridge2]

i have a faint memory of reading about this a few years back, there was a picture with the article and mention of it being in police possesion but cannot remember any more, it may have been in practical classics mag.

[Stevee]

Wow that sounds quite a nice sounding mini

ill let everyone know aspa

but i know some of karys gang rolled round in Cooper s's

[Stevee]

personal back in the 60's if i was gonna rob a bank id used a mini cooper s as a get away car

[E.L.M.O]

trust me it is all true

PMSL.
I am an East London Lad, and the amount of people that claim to know the Krays or have inside info always start with the same line! I only know rumours and what was in all of the Autobiography's. I went through a stage where I was interested in my East London heritage and read most of the books.
I live in Walthamstow now. (I grew up in Chingford, where the twins are buried) but used to spend many nights in Bethnal green as one of my mates lived there and it was easier to get to his from liverpool street or the west end than trek all the way back to Chingford. Theres also a really good comedy club down there on Cambridge heath road owned and sometimes hosted by Lee Hurst. anyone local who likes comedy should check it out!

I wouldnt mind that mini! Bring it back to East London!
It would be nice to know if it was their car, or just an associates motor. Its a great car by the sounds of it no matter who owned it... but the previous owners being the Krays does give it a bit more of an appeal.

I also wouldnt mind the Mini that Lenny Mclean owned (I hope its had the shocks and cones replaced, as I cant imagine them being any good after carrying him around! lol) Pretty sure it was a fairly standard mini though.

Most of that lot owned a fair few motors. They used to drive them and just dump them when they needed a new motor (ie when the cops got wise to what they were driving) If they didnt do this to the Mini, it would seem they had some kind of attachment to the car. Which kind of makes it all that bit more special!

Edited by E.L.M.O, 06 January 2011 - 06:54 PM.

[Big_Adam]

You chaps really do go nuts over anything mini related, don't you.

[Stevee]

well the cooper s were tuned up

and they could sell them on just as easy like i said one ended up nearly 300 miles from london in a little village

[Bean]

Hmmm - Might be appropriate to reveal the troop of our Minis, then ...?


Ronnie:




Reggie:





Jack:




Nipper:




Frankie:











Ah, and a random bit of trivia - The guy I bought Frankie from, used to be a boxing coach ... and box with the group of scoundrels!

[Stevee]

Hmmm - Might be appropriate to reveal the troop of our Minis, then ...?


Ronnie:




Reggie:





Jack:




Nipper:




Frankie:

Lmao ill give you that very nice bunch of mini's

[E.L.M.O]

Hey Jean, When did you get a pick up!!!

You should have just called it Mad Frankie!