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#1 Gdowle

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 09:28 PM

hello,

Im after some advise on the coolant passages on the block. Do i just tap the hole and stick a grub screw or bolt in it or do i need to re drill the hole to line up with the 12g940 head?

Anyone had any overheating problems if not drilled? Drilling seems to be a problem as it needs to be flush to seal?

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#2 bmcecosse

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 11:18 PM

Don't drill anything! Just use a 1275 head gasket. DO make sure you have clearance for the exhaust valves- do you know about that?

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 02:09 AM

yes the machine shop has cut valve reliefs for exhaust side. 2 coolant passages dont line up with the gasket and ive heard it will shorten the life of the gasket or leak straight away? ive got a BK450 gasket to go on it.

#4 PhilipGCaldwell

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 12:16 PM

I have it on good authority you have to block up 1 water passageway, this is to stop pressurisation of the head causing failure, you can get away with not doing it though, personal preferance, I chose to do it in the end

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 12:33 PM

I have it on good authority you have to block up 1 water passageway, this is to stop pressurisation of the head causing failure, you can get away with not doing it though, personal preferance, I chose to do it in the end

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Yep you have to block off that hole, I tapped it a plunged it. I still had trouble with it blowing from the cylinder, in the end I welded it up and had the block skimmed

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Posted 23 February 2011 - 12:45 AM

so no need to re align the holes just block that one up and jobs a gooden? ive got the block all stripped down ready to rebuild now, so if extra work is required to make it last i dont mind.

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Posted 23 February 2011 - 03:00 AM

Yep just block the one, the others are fine, if you use a copper head gasket the water way holes in it are bigger which means every thing lines up ok

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 08:53 PM

im ready to fit a cooper head (12g295) on my pre A+ block
as you can see the gasket leaves shadows of water passages of head on block.

must i redrill the holes to allign the heads holes or will it be ok?

the head comes from a cooper engine, i dont know if the cooper block has bigger water passages to fit with the head

water passages look like with those of the 12g940, if i redrill the passages on the block ill need to put a water pump from 1275 (bigger holes, needs bigger flow?)?

sorry if i posted in a wrong thread but on searching i find this to be more related to my issue

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#9 Dan

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 09:07 PM

The 12G295 is a small bore head, it fits the small bore block perfectly. All you need to do is correct the chamber volume for your CR.

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 09:21 PM

im trying to get a 9:1
do you think its ok for a cruising set up?

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 10:50 PM

im trying to get a 9:1
do you think its ok for a cruising set up?


9:1 sounds okay, I don't think you'd want more than 10:1 for a daily driver. Have you worked out the ratio exactly though? I'm no expert on this subject, but it is good to know what compression you are running.

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 09:58 AM

Later 998s were 10:1 Cr as standard - so aim for at least that! How thick is your 295 head - and are you using flat top pistons?

And - i've never blocked off any waterways when doing the 940 head on a small bore block.........

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 06:59 PM

To be honest, i haven't heard of having to do this either. I have put a 940 on my 1098, must admit first time i took it out for a test drive (today) the head gasket blew ^_^ .....But it blew outwards the water pump end, which i believe it was because the head must have been resting on the pump and not sealed...have now taken a bit more off the top of the pump.
The question now is....Do i block this waterway up or not? :thumbsup:

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 04:51 PM

As the head was off today, i decided to block the hole...Just glad i read this now and not after i had the head bolted back on and running around ..... would have been worring about it all the time :alien:




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