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[blackhallr]

hi all,i have a 6 wheel hustler in garage that has not been started for years so im told it has a bank of switches in the roof(16)that control lights fans etc including ignition,but also a starter on key,i get no spark at all on the dizzy and i think there was an alarm fitted as there is a cicular switch into which a round hollow ket fitted (which i have diconected and wired two wires together)still no joy i can get the engine to turn but no spark, is it possible to wire direct to dizzy from battery and so bypass any alarm just to start it regards john

[Wil_h]

Have you checked the simple things first before wellying in and bodging the wiring. I can imagine anyone would have a sswitch wired in to isolate the coil? But maybe.

First check that you have 12V at the coil with the ignition on (best to do this with the -ve side disconnected). If you have 12 V you need to start looking at the dizzy, points, rotor arm, condensor, cap.

If you don't have 12 v then you'll need to trace the wires. But otherwise, yes, a wire from the battery direct to the coil will work.

[midridge2]

yes, just disconnect the + wire from the coil and take a new wire direct from the + side of the battery to the + side of the coil.

[blackhallr]

yes, just disconnect the + wire from the coil and take a new wire direct from the + side of the battery to the + side of the coil.

hi all,i have removed the dizzy cap and it does not have any spark at points where ever i have switches, what settings do i need my multimeter on to test coil and points(own one dont know how to use it)aand any other electricals you might think of,regards john.

[Dan]

The circular socket in the dash sounds like an immobiliser, it will need a key to fit it. Wouldn't be much of an immobiliser if simply bypassing it by joining the wires together would work, the keys are usually coded. You need to find the relay or ECU that is actually doing the immoblising and bypass that. Do you have a picture of the socket you could post?

Test the coil supply using the 20v DC range on most multimeters. Test the coil primary winding using a fairly low resistance scale of around 2 ohms. You don't need to test the inside of the dizzy, but you could continuity test the low tension cable.

[blackhallr]

The circular socket in the dash sounds like an immobiliser, it will need a key to fit it. Wouldn't be much of an immobiliser if simply bypassing it by joining the wires together would work, the keys are usually coded. You need to find the relay or ECU that is actually doing the immoblising and bypass that. Do you have a picture of the socket you could post?

Test the coil supply using the 20v DC range on most multimeters. Test the coil primary winding using a fairly low resistance scale of around 2 ohms. You don't need to test the inside of the dizzy, but you could continuity test the low tension cable.

hi dan,i have looked at the socket and it has no name on it just a load of numbers,when i connect two wires together i do get a instant beep inside dash but there is so much work to get inside the dash and as i am putting it up for sale just want to know if engine runs,i can take photos on digital but as yet cant work out how to put them on site,its an age thingregards john.

[midridge2]

if it has standard points ignition by passing all the wiring with a wire from battery to coil supplies power to the coil and a wire from the negative side of the coil to the points/distrbutor will by pass any alarm/immobilisor and give a spark at the points. depending how the immobilisor is wired you may have to jump the solinoid with a screwdriver.
were abouts in durham area do you live as i could come and help you out.

[blackhallr]

if it has standard points ignition by passing all the wiring with a wire from battery to coil supplies power to the coil and a wire from the negative side of the coil to the points/distrbutor will by pass any alarm/immobilisor and give a spark at the points. depending how the immobilisor is wired you may have to jump the solinoid with a screwdriver.
were abouts in durham area do you live as i could come and help you out.

hi,im in blackhall rocks all help appreciated as i have so many questions about my other project as well(tea coffee always on supply)regards john

[Ethel]

what's connected to the -ve side of the coil? Get rid of anything other than the dizzy. Run a new wire to be sure if it's taped up in the loom.

[blackhallr]

what's connected to the -ve side of the coil? Get rid of anything other than the dizzy. Run a new wire to be sure if it's taped up in the loom.

hi ethel,i know there is one side ofdizzy with two wires on it will check when i can get back to garage,regards john.

[blackhallr]

what's connected to the -ve side of the coil? Get rid of anything other than the dizzy. Run a new wire to be sure if it's taped up in the loom.

hi ethel,i know there is one side ofdizzy with two wires on it will check when i can get back to garage,regards john.

hi all well problem solved, many thanks to midgeridge who came and helped me sort the problem,wired direct to batt(coil had also packed up which didnt help) i now only need to bypass cut off switch and then its for sale,regards john