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[huw_jenks]

I have a very interesting question about sandpaper.

It will foloow shortly.

I'm in a band. We're trying to get our first gig but every venue we've been to and every band we want to support all want to hear a demo first. So that is what we have done. I would have been happy to pay for a day in a studio and get two tracks of middling quality, but our bassist decided to buy a load of recording gear so we could do it all ourselves. After a few setbacks (as expected when trying to record, mix and edit your own demo) we nearly have a record!

I find the whole process of recording pretty boring to be honest, so I have immersed myself in creating the artwork. My favourite band is the Manics, and I remembered something they said years ago about how they wanted to make their record sleeves out of sandpaper so when it's put in the rack with all the other records it will destroy them. They never did this, but I'm going to give it a go. The plan is to buy a ruck of sandpaper, cut fold, staple and then spray paint our logo on with a stencil.

Which brings me to my problem and resulting question.

I went to my local ironmongers (I actually have a local ironmongers. I don't live in the 1950s, I live in Wales. Some of you may think that is the same thing...) and picked up a few different grades for prototypes but they seem to be a standard size which will make a cd sleeve with a lot of wastage, but isnt quite big enough to make two sleeves!

So is there anywhere I can pick up different sizes of sandpaper? All I have at the moment is 230mm which isn't quite big enough to cover 2 cds, or rolls of 115mm which isn't wide enough for 1 cd! Is there anywhere that sells odd shaped sheets of sandpaper? I've tried Ebay obvs...

huwx

[MiniLuke]

My old woodwork teacher used to throw blocks of scrap wood at us if we referred to glasspaper as sandpaper.

Sorry, don't know the answer to your question.

Edited by MiniLuke, 23 March 2011 - 09:20 PM.

[Dan]

Sanding sheets are standard sized, the sizes of electric sanders and pole sanders and others are based on the size of the sheets (they are usually 1/3 sheet sanders) so there is no need to make other sizes for most markets. So you'll have to try looking at unusual uses. You could try a roll for a floor sander, that would be wider than a 1/3 sheet roll but you can only get them in something like 4 to 12 grit. Or an industrial sized belt sander as would be used by a machinist or a cobbler or something.

[huw_jenks]

My old woodwork teacher used to throw blocks of scrap wood at us if we referred to glasspaper and sandpaper.

Sorry, don't know the answer to your question.

Well he sounds lovely. I just couldnt be bothered with typing almunium oxide paper all the time. Could have typed Al2O3 though, would have saved me a few keys..

[Dan]

My old woodwork teacher used to throw blocks of scrap wood at us if we referred to glasspaper and sandpaper.

Yeah so did mine until I got bored of it, did some research and had a go at him for calling aluminium oxide paper glass paper.

[MiniLuke]

My old woodwork teacher used to throw blocks of scrap wood at us if we referred to glasspaper and sandpaper.

Yeah so did mine until I got bored of it, did some research and had a go at him for calling aluminium oxide paper glass paper.

LOL, I might give him a call, it's only been about 20 years!

[minim@t]

My job involves sanding floors, our machine uses a belt of sand paper 200mm x 7500 i think, can never remember off the top of my head, but there is a larger belt available for a bigger machine than we use which is 2700mm wide x 7500 in lenth, these belts are available in grades ranging from about 16 which is like broken bottles upto 120 grit

Hope this helps Matt

Ps I know a good supplier too

[huw_jenks]

My job involves sanding floors, our machine uses a belt of sand paper 200mm x 7500 i think, can never remember off the top of my head, but there is a larger belt available for a bigger machine than we use which is 2700mm wide x 7500 in lenth, these belts are available in grades ranging from about 16 which is like broken bottles upto 120 grit

Hope this helps Matt

Ps I know a good supplier too

2700mm width would be perfect. any idea about prices?

[minim@t]

knew i'd get the sizing wrong from memory,

heres a link to our supplier,

http://www.floorstoc...ding-belts.html

there good guys, just tell them Matt from Wanstead flooring recomended them and they might sort you out a discount

[minim@t]

Forgot to add prices are for a box of ten belts

[huw_jenks]

Forgot to add prices are for a box of ten belts

Well I've worked it out and for £26 i can make 60 cd wallets, which seems like a good investment for sending off to different places.

In case anyone can't quite picture the look I'm after, here is a prototype...

[SolarB]

More importantly.............

How do they cut 1000's of meters of sand/glassa/alu oxide paper at the factory without the cutting machine going blunt every minute?

Are the blades constantly sharpened, or do they manage to get the material being cut to sharpen the blades at the same time as being cut?

[Juju]

More importantly.............

How do they cut 1000's of meters of sand/glassa/alu oxide paper at the factory without the cutting machine going blunt every minute?

Are the blades constantly sharpened, or do they manage to get the material being cut to sharpen the blades at the same time as being cut?

Ha haa! I'm going to have to look this up now!


Our local ironmongers does sandpaper by the roll, so you buy it in metres or feet 'n' yards (they're quite cosmopolitan ). I don't live in the 1950s. Or in Wales. I live in Dorking, which is the cultural centre of the universe.

Edited by Juju, 24 March 2011 - 03:44 PM.

[Ethel]

why not buy some normal sleeves, a box of pritt (other adhesives are available) 'n get yourself over to Barry Island?

[DanRobinson]

It probably sounds pretty cool but i dont think any music store would willingly buy a CD that they know will damage or ruin other items of their stock, that wouldnt be cost effective.

maybe as a 1 off to send to your friends, family and people who want demo's but im guessing the reason that that band your on about didnt actually ever do it, is because their band manager told them that it would be daft and that their CD's wouldnt sell.

Sorry i cannot answer your question.