Hi all,
What is the difference between rustoleum, celulose and 2 pk paint, when spraying ?? I am thinking of getting a compressor so need to know the pros and cons of all plz.
Graham

Painting Differences
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grahama
, Apr 27 2011 09:58 PM
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#1
Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:58 PM
#2
Posted 29 April 2011 - 07:13 PM
Hi all,
What is the difference between rustoleum, celulose and 2 pk paint, when spraying ?? I am thinking of getting a compressor so need to know the pros and cons of all plz.
Graham
from what ive heard rustoleum is the one used when painting with foam rollers/ foam brushes. 2K is mixed with an activator and thiner and is most durable but also needs the right saftey gear as it is the most toxic. cellulose is the easiest for the novice as it is easy to mend mistakes, mixes 50/50 ish with thinner and is easy to buy from ebay shops. celly normally needs to be polished and looked after more. ive used 2k and celly, but when using 2k i hired a spray booth and the suit/ air fed mask.
#3
Posted 29 April 2011 - 08:13 PM
cellulose is a good old fashioned paint thats very user friendly,but time has changed and new products are on the market that are much more advanced. celly(cellulose) is easier but not easy if you havnt ever painted befor. but it does have a tendancy over time to go flat or dull down, so will need polishing bak up .and if you have filler or repairs under the paint work it can keep sinking and showing off ur nice repairs, which can be annoying.
2k paint is basically the new celly but with a activator(hardner) and it goes off or cures nice and hard. so its stays shiny for ages and is very durable. once flattened down and polished up with a machine polisher or mop. very good paint if your car is a solid colour, no metalics tho. paint has to be mixed with a hardner and thinned as you like it.
basecoat and 2k lacquer- most common type of procedure and paint used, spray the colour on then 2k lacquer over the top. then flatten it down and polish the nuts out of it till its like glass!! the lacquer is basically the same idea as 2k paint, it needs to be mixed with a hardner to cure or go off nice and hard, and is very durable and you get a wicked shine(better than 2k paint in my opinion) but you do need to no what you are doin and getin in to with these products because they are all like anything in life, if u no what u r doin with them, there nice and easy to use, if u dont there a basta@d. dont buy cheap lacquer if you want a proper result. and look into how the lacquer you have chosen, should be applied-because they r all different,,,all the info is on the manufacturers website.
dont use air dryin lacquer either its a waste of money and time and will go flat after time.
You can paint these in your garage if u take a bit of time and prep ur garage well enough, wet the floor,sheet all the walls and ceiling and basically do everything you can to stop as much dust getin in ur nice new paint work. but obviously a booth would suit better but not everyone can borrow one for a day. but all these products with hardner or 2k or 2 pack are very poisonous and you need to cover up and always use a good mask no cheap ones because its protecting u!! and ur lungs.
also you will need a good size compressor as well
or go into ur local paint shop and they will advise you
good luck, its a lovely achievement to say i painted that myself!!!
id use base and 2k lacquer
2k paint is basically the new celly but with a activator(hardner) and it goes off or cures nice and hard. so its stays shiny for ages and is very durable. once flattened down and polished up with a machine polisher or mop. very good paint if your car is a solid colour, no metalics tho. paint has to be mixed with a hardner and thinned as you like it.
basecoat and 2k lacquer- most common type of procedure and paint used, spray the colour on then 2k lacquer over the top. then flatten it down and polish the nuts out of it till its like glass!! the lacquer is basically the same idea as 2k paint, it needs to be mixed with a hardner to cure or go off nice and hard, and is very durable and you get a wicked shine(better than 2k paint in my opinion) but you do need to no what you are doin and getin in to with these products because they are all like anything in life, if u no what u r doin with them, there nice and easy to use, if u dont there a basta@d. dont buy cheap lacquer if you want a proper result. and look into how the lacquer you have chosen, should be applied-because they r all different,,,all the info is on the manufacturers website.
dont use air dryin lacquer either its a waste of money and time and will go flat after time.
You can paint these in your garage if u take a bit of time and prep ur garage well enough, wet the floor,sheet all the walls and ceiling and basically do everything you can to stop as much dust getin in ur nice new paint work. but obviously a booth would suit better but not everyone can borrow one for a day. but all these products with hardner or 2k or 2 pack are very poisonous and you need to cover up and always use a good mask no cheap ones because its protecting u!! and ur lungs.
also you will need a good size compressor as well
or go into ur local paint shop and they will advise you
good luck, its a lovely achievement to say i painted that myself!!!
id use base and 2k lacquer
#4
Posted 01 May 2011 - 05:13 PM
You can spray rustoelum as well and it comes out quite well, very similar to celly. For home use, I would go with rustoleum or celly, 2pk is nasty stuff (but is harder wearing and shiny from the gun).
#5
Posted 01 May 2011 - 05:59 PM
How do you mix rustoleum to spray, with thinners I take it?? Also you say 2K is shiny from the gun, do cely and rustoleum come up well after flatting and polishing??
Graham
Graham
#6
Posted 01 May 2011 - 06:08 PM
I painted mine with cellulose, flatted with 2000 and 3000 grit, then polished up with Menz Intensive Polish (high cut) and Menz Final Finish (low cut)



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