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[olds_kool_lews]

i have a 1979 clubman estate, but i have retro fitted a 1976 clubman estate wiring loom to keep things as simple as possible, i need some advice on the following-

-i have fitted a 1988 1275 metro engine that has electronic ignition
-the starter is the piggy back solenoid type
-the solenoid ill be using is the one that bolts to the inner wing
-the wiring for the speedo currently isnt connected to anything as i cut off the connector (will this effect starting?)
-have fitted a fully charged battery so i know this is not the problem.

the wiring goes as follows -

white wire with yellow stripe from the dizzy amplifier (small black box on the dizzy) to the + side of the coil, then white wire with black stripe from dizzy amplifier to the - side of the coil, the plain white wire from the wiring loom is connected to the + terminal of the coil, whereas the white wire with the balc dtripe from the 76 wiring loom is out the way as its now redundant. using the inner wing solenoid, all the thick brown wires and battery wire is connected to the battery cable terminal, as is the thick black wire that goes to the starter. the thin white wire with the red stripe goes to the small connector on the inner wing solenoid in its correct position. i have run a wire from the redundant terminal on the inner wing starter to the large spade connector on the starter motor which is what i have done previously on another mini and it started on the button no problem. now with the current set up, im stumped, its my last day off work nd i need to get it running asap ready for its mot which i can hopefully sort for the weekend..

any help will be much appreciated!

[mk1leg]

Just use the old starter motor should work then there no need to fuss about extra wires...also use the old dizzy will still work............

[MRA]

Why would yo uwant to fit two solenoids ?

The type you have stated as "piggy back" is pre-engaged type and has the solenoid built in.

The earlier type was called an inertia type and had a solenoid on the inner wing or on the transfer case dependant on year....

You would only use one or the other and it is generally determined by the flywheel or in fact the starter motor ring gear fitted to the flywheel.

Speedo isn't an electric device so cutting wires would have no effect on it.... however the wires that you have cut may have an effect on another part of the elctriclal system.

Thick black wire to the starter motor ?? Black is normally a ground or earth cable.

You may need to extend the power cable from the earlier "on the wing" solenoid to the pre-engaged starter motor, connect them together using the old solenoid but only use one stud, so they are physically joined...... the other end goes to your starter motor stud, an dthe energiser wire goes direct to the solenoid on the starter motor....

At this stage you should be able to turn it over on the key ?

If so all you need now is a live (live when on - white wire) to the coil and all is good to go

Also all the brown wires should join at the old solenoid terminal unless you are using a new longer battery cable ?

[MRA]

Just use the old starter motor should work then there no need to fuss about extra wires...also use the old dizzy will still work............

Sorry but none of this will work.....

Wrong starter motor gears so will not mesh correctly

Incorrect type of distributor drive from A to A+ series engines

[Dan]

Also, you haven't actually said what the problem is. I guess that it's not cranking but you haven't given any details.

[olds_kool_lews]

no worries guys, all wired in correctly, the battery terminal was to fault, starts on the key now no problems sounds like a beast too, as it has no exhaust other than the lcb manifold lol