17 replies to this topic

[MJWarren]

Where is a good place to get a bolt in cage from?

thanks

[Artful Dodger]

mini sport stock saftey devises roll cage, they are FIA approved and have all of the variatys available, at a good price

its worth it!

Harri

[wolfie]

Minisport and minispares stock safety devices

I prefer roll centre door bars over the safety devices, there made to the same FIA standards and you can buy direct and there cheaper!
http://www.rollcentr...ional_spec.html

[Cooperman]

I always used Safety Devices in the past, but the Roll Centre ones are also excellent I've heard.
So long as they are FIA Approved they'll be fine for competition so long as the fitting is in accordance with the MSA 'Blue Book' requirements.

[Artful Dodger]

sorry for a thread hijack but are the roll center door bars comapable with safety devices roll cages ??

[wolfie]

sort of
Roll centre have welded flanges that bolt together, the safety devices clamp round the tube

You could fit roll centre door bars if the cage measurments are the same as roll centre but you would have to weld the flanges to the cage
http://www.merlinmot...oduct_info.html

Edited by wolfie, 17 July 2011 - 11:10 PM.

[R1mini]

sort of
Roll centre have welded flanges that bolt together, the safety devices clamp round the tube

You could fit roll centre door bars if the cage measurments are the same as roll centre but you would have to weld the flanges to the cage
http://www.merlinmot...oduct_info.html

If you make any welded modifications you will lose the certification

Cheers
David

[wolfie]

Depends if he wants the msa certification, main thing is the original construction is to FIA spec if its for a road car then there is no issue and a far better prospect thyan buying from the likes of Geronimo or what ever there called

Edited by wolfie, 19 July 2011 - 10:00 AM.

[TopCatCustom]

Yeah dont buy from Geronimo!

I can't stand those awful looking "clamps" that you get for door bars etc on safety devices and some other cages, welded brackets are much better, neater and stronger IMO.

[steverose]

Yeah dont buy from Geronimo!

I can't stand those awful looking "clamps" that you get for door bars etc on safety devices and some other cages, welded brackets are much better, neater and stronger IMO.

I prefer the clamps, it means you can take the bars off to get seats in, or if you just want them out of the way if your using it as a road car (dont think the missis would like climbing over them in a dress). But equally you can never be sure how good the welding is, so while it may look good it may be much weaker than the bolted in type problem is you wont find out until you need it the most.

[TopCatCustom]

You can unbolt both types very easily, this is my prefered type:



These are the type I think are a bit horrible, you can make out the one on the drivers side easier:

[benjy_18]

heres another vote to buy from anywhere except geronimo! aweful service and the cages dont fit very well. i may as well made my own the amount of work ive done to it.

[Cooperman]

None fit as well as the Safety Devices ones.
Don't forget to use proper padding on all the front bars. The installation of a roll cage really does make the inside much less safe in an accident unless you are wearing a crash helmet, so unless you think you may be likely to roll your car it is probably not a wise thing to install and never install one unless there are proper 4-point located full harness belts to motor-sport specifications fitted as well. Hit your head on a roll cage in an accident and it could easily be 'Goodnight Vienna'.

[wolfie]

None fit as well as the Safety Devices ones.

Sorry thats rubbish, Roll Centre fit Just as well as safety devices i know ive had both and currently have roll centre as i like there dog leg door bars better.

Don't forget to use proper padding on all the front bars. The installation of a roll cage really does make the inside much less safe in an accident unless you are wearing a crash helmet, so unless you think you may be likely to roll your car it is probably not a wise thing to install and never install one unless there are proper 4-point located full harness belts to motor-sport specifications fitted as well. Hit your head on a roll cage in an accident and it could easily be 'Goodnight Vienna'.

I do agree the safe thing to do is low mounted buckets with harnesses and roll cage padding, i do use padding when i go to a track day or drag racing but take it off when its on the road as i dont like the look regardless of the safety aspect.

Edited by wolfie, 19 July 2011 - 04:13 PM.

[MJWarren]

Thanks guys, ive seen the roll centre ones and i think i might go for one. Look like they fit well enough to me, but we will see when i buy one.

Matt