does anyone race their mini in something like classic touring cars, hillclimbs or something similar? if so what are the regulations do you have to stick to?
Does Anyone Race Their Mini?
Started by
rids
, Aug 22 2011 04:54 PM
22 replies to this topic
#1
rids
-
- Members
-
- 670 posts
Super Mini Mad
- Local Club: british mini club
Posted 22 August 2011 - 04:54 PM
#2
icklemini
-
- Traders
-
- 2,982 posts
Up Into Fourth
- Location: Northampton
Posted 22 August 2011 - 05:51 PM
i look after a few different types.
Regulations are in a nutshell: need to be compliant with the MSA Blue Book regs, then each 'club' have their own set of regs specific to the formula you wish to compete in.
For example, you will find that the safety aspect (seats, roll cage, harness, etc) are stated in the blue book, but the club regs will tell you what you can / cant do to the car to race in that particular championship..
Regulations are in a nutshell: need to be compliant with the MSA Blue Book regs, then each 'club' have their own set of regs specific to the formula you wish to compete in.
For example, you will find that the safety aspect (seats, roll cage, harness, etc) are stated in the blue book, but the club regs will tell you what you can / cant do to the car to race in that particular championship..
#3
rids
-
- Members
-
- 670 posts
Super Mini Mad
- Local Club: british mini club
Posted 22 August 2011 - 07:33 PM
i have a good clubman shell and fancy building it up to run in the post historic series. dont want to spend fortunes, but want to be competitive.
#4
mike.
-
- Members
-
- 6,176 posts
Crazy About Mini's
Posted 22 August 2011 - 07:35 PM
dont want to spend fortunes, but want to be competitive.
I don't know if those 2 go together to be honest.
#5
rids
-
- Members
-
- 670 posts
Super Mini Mad
- Local Club: british mini club
Posted 22 August 2011 - 07:45 PM
i know what you mean, but i'd rather rebuild an a series than say,a jag engine
#6
Cooperman
-
- TMF+ Member
-
- 23,325 posts
Uncle Cooperman, Voted Mr TMF 2011
- Location: Cambs.
- Local Club: MCR, HAMOC, Chelmsford M.C.
Posted 22 August 2011 - 10:52 PM
It depends on how competitive you want to be.
To lighten the shell and install the basic safety equipment would cost around £1000 if you do it all yourself. This includes the cage, perspex windows, other weight saving, etc.
Then allow about £500 for FIA seat & belts and £150 for fire extinguisher.
For a competitive race engine and gearbox allow between £3500 and £5000 plus the initial engine, carbs and manifolds.
Add to this the suspension modifications, dampers, brakes, etc at, say £600 assuming you do all that yourself.
Add to this any additional parts like high-pressure fuel pump, additional instruments, oil cooler, wheels, racing tyres at, maybe £1000.
I'm just about to strat the complete restoration and re-build to current Historic rally regulations and I'm reckoning on around £14500 plus donor original 1966 rally car which includes my labour and any additional parts, bearing that most of the rally parts are there, but need rebuilding and current safety equipment is needed.
To lighten the shell and install the basic safety equipment would cost around £1000 if you do it all yourself. This includes the cage, perspex windows, other weight saving, etc.
Then allow about £500 for FIA seat & belts and £150 for fire extinguisher.
For a competitive race engine and gearbox allow between £3500 and £5000 plus the initial engine, carbs and manifolds.
Add to this the suspension modifications, dampers, brakes, etc at, say £600 assuming you do all that yourself.
Add to this any additional parts like high-pressure fuel pump, additional instruments, oil cooler, wheels, racing tyres at, maybe £1000.
I'm just about to strat the complete restoration and re-build to current Historic rally regulations and I'm reckoning on around £14500 plus donor original 1966 rally car which includes my labour and any additional parts, bearing that most of the rally parts are there, but need rebuilding and current safety equipment is needed.
#7
AlexMozza
-
- Members
-
- 1,248 posts
One Carb Or Two?
- Location: Bratton, Wiltshire
- Local Club: Not Yet
Posted 22 August 2011 - 11:15 PM
MSVR Mighty Mini's FTW 
#8
Wil_h
-
- Members
-
- 3,244 posts
Up Into Fourth
Posted 23 August 2011 - 06:53 AM
In some respects is will be cheaper to buy an already built car and make it competative. It's taken me 8 years of development to get my hillclimber setting hill records. My first build was way off the mark, but I was setting competative times within a few seasons. To build my car (without labour costs) would be at least 10k, but no-one would pay me that sort of money to buy it.
#9
Cooperman
-
- TMF+ Member
-
- 23,325 posts
Uncle Cooperman, Voted Mr TMF 2011
- Location: Cambs.
- Local Club: MCR, HAMOC, Chelmsford M.C.
Posted 23 August 2011 - 09:18 AM
Motor-sport certainly ain't cheap.
#10
ace01
-
- Members
-
- 457 posts
Speeding Along Now
- Location: South
- Local Club: Mini Cooper Register
Posted 23 August 2011 - 09:46 AM
I agree motor sport is not cheap, although you can hill climb/sprint in a road going mini once you make a few small modifications to it. If you want to be a bit more serious, then the cost will obviously go up. I would say try hillclimbing in a road going class, minimal mods, if you enjoy it get your wallet out!
Get yourself a copy of the MSA blue book or look online.
Get yourself a copy of the MSA blue book or look online.
#11
rids
-
- Members
-
- 670 posts
Super Mini Mad
- Local Club: british mini club
Posted 23 August 2011 - 12:04 PM
hill climbs might be the way to go for now!, a couple of friends want to try historic racing and we may build a car as a joint venture.
#12
pogie
-
- TMF+ Member
-
- 498 posts
Speeding Along Now
- Local Club: Essex MC
Posted 23 August 2011 - 12:21 PM
Having helped friends build and maintain race cars in the Beetle Cup and the Stock Hatch championship, I would say work out the cost of building the car on paper, then double it and you will be near the final figure. 
Don't forget the cost of race entries, a tow vehicle plus trailer and fuel to and from the circuits. It soon adds up.
Don't forget the cost of race entries, a tow vehicle plus trailer and fuel to and from the circuits. It soon adds up.
#13
maggies_minder
-
- Members
-
- 4,393 posts
TMFs New official Spamster
- Location: i dont know
- Local Club: sutton coldfield mini club
Posted 23 August 2011 - 12:27 PM
our club went to an open day at a sprint track, that wasnt hugely expensive and wouldnt take much to be competitive due to the huge number of classes.
#14
Wil_h
-
- Members
-
- 3,244 posts
Up Into Fourth
Posted 23 August 2011 - 12:57 PM
If you want more info on hillclimbing try www.hillclimbandsprint.co.uk
The HSA is a good place to start, it's affilaited with lots of clubs so you can enter events all over the country. The championship has a good spread of cars too, minis always welcome. If you want more info, my email address is on the how to get started page.
The HSA is a good place to start, it's affilaited with lots of clubs so you can enter events all over the country. The championship has a good spread of cars too, minis always welcome. If you want more info, my email address is on the how to get started page.
#15
TopCatCustom
-
- Members
-
- 1,134 posts
Previously known as C4NN0N.
Posted 23 August 2011 - 01:43 PM
Having helped friends build and maintain race cars in the Beetle Cup and the Stock Hatch championship, I would say work out the cost of building the car on paper, then double it and you will be near the final figure.
Don't forget the cost of race entries, a tow vehicle plus trailer and fuel to and from the circuits. It soon adds up.
I second that, especially the race entries bit!
1 user(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users
