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[oliver122]

i was wondering , would having a sump gaured be an m.o.t failure as its coming up for m.o.t time

[liirge]

nope

[sonikk4]

I don't see why it would. As long as the inspector can see all of the items covered in the MOT then it should be ok. If it hides everything then it might possibly affect it.

I have found an Advisory along with my current MOT on my 07 Passat that mentions the engine cover which is bizarre but nothing about the under tray. So go figure!!

[liirge]

If you think about Landrovers and over off road vehicles that have guards for nearly every bit of protruding equipment on the under belly.

[Tanya]

One of our minis has a sump guard which I think was fitted very early on in its life. Although we only purchased him recently, the sump guard never seemed to have been an MOT issue.

[Mini_Magic]

So long as nothing is sticking out of it and it's safely fitted then you shouldn't have a problem.

[1275GTS]

2 of mine have sump gaurds and I haven't had any problems at MOT times.

Edited by 1275GTS, 12 September 2011 - 06:52 PM.

[maggies_minder]

2 of mine have sump gaurds and I haven't had any problems at MOT times.

are you running sump guards?

[Cooperman]

All the rally Minis I've had over the years have all had proper full-length sump guards. How could fitting one cause an MoT failure when they were a factory-fit optional extra back 'in the day'?

[1275GTS]

2 of mine have sump gaurds and I haven't had any problems at MOT times.

are you running sump guards?

yes on 2 minis. they have been on for years. the mot testers have never commented on them at all.

[maggies_minder]

2 of mine have sump gaurds and I haven't had any problems at MOT times.

are you running sump guards?

yes on 2 minis. they have been on for years. the mot testers have never commented on them at all.

sorry i dont know why i typed that mustve subconciously been thinking about the thread title, i meant to say are you usig oil coolers?

[1275GTS]

no, i'm not running oil coolers on either. i've not had any problems on either. also one of the minis with the sump guard came from japan with the sump gaurd already fitted and its a lot hotter over there than it is here. i'm not saying that you don't need an oil cooler though just that i'm not using one.

[maggies_minder]

no, i'm not running oil coolers on either. i've not had any problems on either. also one of the minis with the sump guard came from japan with the sump gaurd already fitted and its a lot hotter over there than it is here. i'm not saying that you don't need an oil cooler though just that i'm not using one.

fair enough (again apologies for the daft question first time round).
i was always told an oil cooler is necessary when running a sump guard. but hey hoe, if it works, it works.

[Cooperman]

The issue of an oil cooler on a Mini with a sump guard came about because a sump guard is normally fitted to rally cars. A rally car has very low gearing to maximise acceleration at the expense of top speed and this is combined with a lot of time spent at high revs in the lower gears and relatively low forward speed which thus minimises air flow across the sump fins. Also, a rally car usually has some sort of material between guard and sump which prevents any air flowing under the sump. All this equals high oil temperatures.
On a low-revving engine at higher road speeds (in relative terms) a sump guard may not mean an oil cooler is needed, although it can never be a bad thing so long as the oil doesn't then run too cold in Winter weather (= fit an oil thermostat).
I hope this explains it well enough.

[maggies_minder]

The issue of an oil cooler on a Mini with a sump guard came about because a sump guard is normally fitted to rally cars. A rally car has very low gearing to maximise acceleration at the expense of top speed and this is combined with a lot of time spent at high revs in the lower gears and relatively low forward speed which thus minimises air flow across the sump fins. Also, a rally car usually has some sort of material between guard and sump which prevents any air flowing under the sump. All this equals high oil temperatures.
On a low-revving engine at higher road speeds (in relative terms) a sump guard may not mean an oil cooler is needed, although it can never be a bad thing so long as the oil doesn't then run too cold in Winter weather (= fit an oil thermostat).
I hope this explains it well enough.

thats perfect cooperman, clears everything up perfectly.