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#1 Daveuk

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 09:13 PM

Evening all

been scratching my head over the past few days about these. done some searching and gatherered the little notch on the teardrop fit into one of the holes on the front valance........ however this only lines up on hole

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now am i correct in saying, it's the fat wide bit goes to the bottom of the front valance which bolts to the subframe and the skinny top bolts to the valance

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which way round??

i just can't seem to see how it does it on my valance correctly? am i missing a hole here or ami doing it right and not seeing it clearly?

any help will be appreciated

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 09:20 PM

Fat at the bottom. (i know it doesnt sound nice though LOL)

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 06:25 PM

cheers jaydee, i think i did try that way round but it just doesn't seem right!?

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 07:06 PM

If you look at the teardrop there is a locating pin :)

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 07:28 PM

I'm confused by the angle but looks like a hole is missing

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 04:23 PM

that's what confused me Steve! the big damn hole in between the two little holes is missing off the genuine front valance so god know how this goes, haven't done anymore as i need to update the front subframe so things haven't been happening with the mounts

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 04:10 PM

Anyone shed more light on this as its still not lining up properly?? Are these tear drops no good

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 05:02 PM

It begs the question... have you got the right valance ?

MK1 2 and 3 don't use the teardrop p/n 14A8308, only mk4 onwards use the tear drop p/n ALA8619

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 05:56 PM

You could solve the problem by fitting solid mounts all round, for better handling! But seriously, if you don't want to do that, you are going to have to make at least two large holes, or change the front panel for a later variant.

If you know someone with a MK4 or later, ask if they will let you measure what is required. If they happen to have the subframe out at the moment, even better. Or borrow a new valance to get the dimensions. Guess-Works,com is correct, but I am not sure if the difference is just the holes, or other dimensions too. There is normally a small clearance betweem the centre of the teardrop and the subframe, which should be shimmed, the longer central bolt passing through the shims, which makes me think that the mounting surface on the valance must sit slightly further forward on a rubber mounted version.

If you can't get access to a valance for measurements, you may need to assemble the subframe to the car, bolt the centre of the teardrop to the subframe, and see if any of the bolt holes for the valance line up. I am puzzled that your valance has two holes, because I have had a MK1 and a MK2, and am certain that they had only one bolt in each front corner. The Somerford web site agrees. And, I did have a later one with teardrops, which had to be replaced more than once.

The Rover manual has the picture with the large central hole, as already shown by Irostoke. The bonded metal insert for the central bolt goes against the subframe, but no mention of shimming, although they were on my later car, and are available on the Somerford web site.

There should be two small holes, one for the pin and the other for a 5/16" bolt. The body of the teardrop should be a snug fit in the large hole. Plain washers under bolt head and nut, plus a lockwasher under nut. Same for the central bolt. I am hoping that the description of how it is bolted will help in some way, but your valance does seem to be odd. It can't be fitted without the central hole, as you need to be able to tighten the bolt through the subframe. And, the lower hole should be sized to fit the pin on the mount, which is of smaller diameter. Your mount does seem to be the same size and shape as the bonded metal-rubber originals, and the pin diameter looks about right, but the hole is clearly going to take a 5/16" bolt.

It is only a guess, but one of the holes may line up with the bolt hole in the subframe when you assemble it, and if so, that is where the centre of the large hole should be. It should also line up with the access hole in the front, without which you can't get to the subframe bolt.

I suspect a simple manufacturing error as it can't be correct for either solid or rubber/poly mounts as it stands.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 06:02 PM

Looks lke the wrong panel to me.
Dont forget the wrong panel wont fit with the teardrops if modified as the depth of the teardrop isnt allowed for on the older type panel so nothing will line up easily

Edited by dave1293gt, 22 January 2012 - 06:04 PM.


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Posted 10 June 2012 - 05:34 PM

Thanks ever so much guys! just looked up all the different alternative front valances and yes it seems to be the early mk1/2 front valance, it's a 76 so the cross over is at this date and getting panels has been a pain sometimes!

anyway need to get rid of this now and get the correct ALA8619 panel which has the large central hole!

cheers for the help peeps i hope this helps a lot of other people when they come to renewing their front valance

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 08:04 PM

Finally got round to getting the correct panel, fitted it today after work and bang! everything aligns up and fits nicely! Tear drops fit correctly and there's a nut welded on the panel to fit the bolt in unlike before, but it's now looking a lot more like a mini!

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 07:23 AM

I'm confused by the angle but looks like a hole is missing


Edited by Aure.bravo, 23 August 2014 - 07:24 AM.





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