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[feeenix14]

Please help me,

I'm trying to replace my timing cover and a few other bits in that area, I've removed everything I can - radiator, alternator, engine mount is out the way and the engine is supported . . . . But

I have my big 34mm socket on the bolt but can't shift it, not sure if I'm trying to turn it the wrong way ? I'm trying to pull my bar down toward the front grille but I can't do it ?

Do I just need a big breaker bar and hang off it ?

Also I can't get my engine steady off to change the thermostat housing bracket do the bolts in the bulkhead have a nut on the other side or should they just undo ?

Any help appreciated

Sam

[L400RAS]

The crankshaft pulley bolt can be very tight (100Nm / 75lbf). You will need a long bar on it yes. Has the flywheel been locked to prevent the crank from turning?

Re: engine steady - i assume this is an "ultimate steady"? If so, there may be some nuts on the underside - look up in the footwell area.

Edited by L400RAS, 16 October 2011 - 01:00 PM.

[bmcecosse]

The crank bolt is best undone using a 'rattle gun' - using a long bar can actually bend the crank nose slightly....... Take care!

[feeenix14]

Thanks for the help.

Not sure how you lock the flywheel ? I have the car in gear and it's pretty solid ? Will that do the job ?

I'm assuming a rattle gun is the airgun they use at a garage ? I really wanted to have a go at doing this myself but it looks like I will have to put it back together and take it to a garage with my parts and ask them to sort it. Gutted.

[bcjames]

You need to take the starter out and use a screwdriver/spanner/shell/flywheel lock tool against the flywheel to stop it turning. I don't like the idea of doing it against the gear box.

[feeenix14]

But won't that damage the flywheel. Break teeth off it or something ?

[bcjames]

Shouldn't do if you are careful. Rover made a tool for the job and it's in their workshop manual under this job.

[Frisco]

No it will be fine if you do it properly. You have to remember that the diameter of the flywheel gives it a big mechanical advantage so you wont be putting anywhere near the same force on the ring gear teeth as you are on the bolt.

[feeenix14]

Done it !!!

Starter out, then I jammed a little spanner in there and pulled on that pole !! I think those extra gym sessions have paid off.

When I got the bolt off there was a washer behind there really mashed up ? Will I need to replace that when I rebuild it all ?

Thanks for the help everyone I was starting to lose my rag with it now I'm chuffed !! Anything else I should do before I take off the timing cover ? I read somewhere about a woodruff key but I can't see it at the minute ? Will I be able to see it when the timing cover is off ?

Thanks again peeps

Sam

[bmcecosse]

The little washer was the locking washer - you should have released it before removing the bolt. The other way to undo this bolt is to use the starter motor - good fitting socket on the bolt head and extension arm resting on the subframe - obviously IN THE DIRECTION OF ROTATION ! Then jab the starter (plug leads off).

[R1minimagic]

Sounds like a good way to wreck a starter motor to me!

[lrostoke]

Done the starter motor trick on Landrovers works a treat, only takes a flick of the key normally

[feeenix14]

I don't understand how I could have released the washer before I released the bolt ? The crankshaft bolt was holding it on against the timing cover ? Anyways it's off now.

I'm going to pack everything away and order a few gaskets that I think I should fit while I'm in there as it looks like the previous owner was a fan of silicone sealant and not proper gaskets then do it in one go.

Just a quick one - crankshaft bolt and timing cover bolts - does anyone know the torque figures for these when I'm doing them back up ?

Thanks again

Edited by feeenix14, 16 October 2011 - 04:11 PM.

[L400RAS]

Just a quick one - crankshaft bolt and timing cover bolts - does anyone know the torque figures for these when I'm doing them back up ?

As I said in post #2... crankshaft pulley bolt = 100Nm / 75lbf

the others:

Timing cover and front plate:
1⁄4 in UNF bolts . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7Nm 5lbf
5⁄16 in UNF bolts . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16Nm 12lbf

Remember to knock down the lock tab through the inspection hole in the inner wing (under the passenger wheelarch)

Edited by L400RAS, 16 October 2011 - 04:21 PM.

[bmcecosse]

It works fine with the starter motor - Morris Minor owners have been doing it this way for many many years. Just need to make sure nothing can fly about - possibly wise to lay an old rug over the socket/extension in case it jumps off.