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#31 Tommyboy12

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:14 PM

Both engines have their merits. The K-series could have done with being cast with less flex in the block. Thats its inherent problem really. Its less noticeable on the 1.1 and 1.4 engines but it really is a problem when dealing with the 1.6 and 1.8, especially in high power outputs.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:16 PM

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:19 PM

I couldn't count the amount of friends I have that have VVC Metros on my hands if I had 4... and none of them have EVER suffered a HG failure. Because they built their engines, looked after them properly from the very first mile on the road and maintained them how you should. Mostly track cars putting out 160 brake or more.

K-series is notorious for HG, no doubt about that, my brother has had 3 ZR's, they've done hundreds of thousands of miles between them, all on original head gaskets.

So many people out the K-series from the first moment, and wont touch it because of RUMOUR...

If you bothered to stray away from your 60 year old push rod engine you'll realize you can be putting out 105bhp for 200 quid or be running 160 brake AND a limited slip diff for no more than 300

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:19 PM

Sounds ridiculous, but they're just not as pretty and proportionate as Minis. Granted they'll probably never be as fast as Metros without serious work, but they have a style that it's sucessor just isn't nearly as stylish; a massive part of the Mini's appeal.

Were I to buy a car to tune the hell out of and make the Abercrombie and Fitch crowd weep, I'd buy a 'tro and drop a monster under the it's nose flap. As it stands, I want a car with quirks, and the Mini covers that in a way no other could.

By the way, my Minis been on axle stands for almost a month now due to one job leading to another. I don't care. I just can't wait for it to be working again, and that's what makes it so special.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:21 PM

Well if he wants to sell it in 6 months... ;D
Haha, well Im pretty much settled on that MK Metro as a second car and that one has given me some ideas! You dont know what shade of blue it is do you?

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:23 PM





K-series, what a heap of junk!!


Fixed that for you ;)


Honestly dude, you can get a 1.4 K-series for literally pennies, and still have more power than an A-series that's had lots of money spent on it...

*awaits headgasket and overheating to be mentioned*. Oh, you fools.

the inner light.


Usualy cheap for a reason. Im not saying A-series are amazing, just better.


I hate to be the person that blabs on about how amazing K series are compared to A series... but what is that theory based upon may i ask?


I too am waiting an answer to this.

I picked my up my vvc engine, complete with ancillaries and ecu, wiring loom for £300, It produces 160bhp as standard, I'd like to see someone build a reliable a series with that power for less than £2000 that would would be capable of covering thousands of miles without a rebuild or going bang.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:23 PM

I couldn't count the amount of friends I have that have VVC Metros on my hands if I had 4... and none of them have EVER suffered a HG failure. Because they built their engines, looked after them properly from the very first mile on the road and maintained them how you should. Mostly track cars putting out 160 brake or more.

K-series is notorious for HG, no doubt about that, my brother has had 3 ZR's, they've done hundreds of thousands of miles between them, all on original head gaskets.

So many people out the K-series from the first moment, and wont touch it because of RUMOUR...

If you bothered to stray away from your 60 year old push rod engine you'll realize you can be putting out 105bhp for 200 quid or be running 160 brake AND a limited slip diff for no more than 300


My mates had 3 k-series metros and ive had one. The headgasket went on all four. Might just be bad luck but i wont be getting one again.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:26 PM

A-series may not reliably put out that kind of power but there is a development gap of 40 years, 8 extra valves, 500cc's and the wonders of ECU's and there ancillaries.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:27 PM

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:30 PM

I'm poor, I cant afford to be spending hundreds/thousands on an engine to get even a mildly satisfactory amount of power. 105bhp for 250 quid delivered to my door with loom, ancillaries and ECU. Thanks.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:31 PM


I couldn't count the amount of friends I have that have VVC Metros on my hands if I had 4... and none of them have EVER suffered a HG failure. Because they built their engines, looked after them properly from the very first mile on the road and maintained them how you should. Mostly track cars putting out 160 brake or more.

K-series is notorious for HG, no doubt about that, my brother has had 3 ZR's, they've done hundreds of thousands of miles between them, all on original head gaskets.

So many people out the K-series from the first moment, and wont touch it because of RUMOUR...

If you bothered to stray away from your 60 year old push rod engine you'll realize you can be putting out 105bhp for 200 quid or be running 160 brake AND a limited slip diff for no more than 300


My mates had 3 k-series metros and ive had one. The headgasket went on all four. Might just be bad luck but i wont be getting one again.


You're both realllly crap at buying cars. 3, seriously?

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:31 PM

+ 5 gears and the capability of 40MPG + woop woop

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:32 PM

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:33 PM



I couldn't count the amount of friends I have that have VVC Metros on my hands if I had 4... and none of them have EVER suffered a HG failure. Because they built their engines, looked after them properly from the very first mile on the road and maintained them how you should. Mostly track cars putting out 160 brake or more.

K-series is notorious for HG, no doubt about that, my brother has had 3 ZR's, they've done hundreds of thousands of miles between them, all on original head gaskets.

So many people out the K-series from the first moment, and wont touch it because of RUMOUR...

If you bothered to stray away from your 60 year old push rod engine you'll realize you can be putting out 105bhp for 200 quid or be running 160 brake AND a limited slip diff for no more than 300


My mates had 3 k-series metros and ive had one. The headgasket went on all four. Might just be bad luck but i wont be getting one again.


You're both realllly crap at buying cars. 3, seriously?


4. Or maybe they are just bad cars?...

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:34 PM

Austin Metros are sick too... I'd love to own one one day. Sooo nice.




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