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[binge]

My stage one Kit arrived today, Looks very good. Big chunky exhaust and that. All good.

Gets it home and offers the carb up to the Inlet manifold and it appears I need a spacer and another 2 studs to affix the carb to the inlet. The throttle unit is fouling on the inlet.

BUT, After putting it on the enigne, It appears that if I do put the HIF44 carb on a spacer then onto the inlet, The carb looks like its going to be fouling on the Bulkhead too!

Not too fussed about the bulk head, If it fouls Ill cut a piece out of the bulkhead near that plastic bit what comes out anyway.



As for the spacer and 2 studs, Is this what I need, if So, Does anybody have them and able to post them QUICKLY! :'(

I to get this car running soonish. Tee hee.


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[Jammy]

Why do you need to get it running soonish, thought you got you Frenchie on Tuesday?

And if the bulkhead gets in the way, persuade it with a hammer, don't be a dumbass and cut a hole in it!

[binge]

Because I just love driving the minis!


So bend the bulkhead yea, No cutty?

[Dan]

No, the bulkhead is what stops the fumes in your engine bay and any fires that start there from killing you inside the car. Don't cut holes in it.

You did buy a stage 1 kit for an HIF44 type carb didn't you? If you specified the carb then the manifold should have all the studs in it. You can try removing the studs from your standard manifold to use but that might be unsuccessful as they'll be pretty well seized in. It should all fit without bulkhead mods to be honest, it's a pretty standard setup.

[Sprocket]

Strike three.

This seems to be a common problem and wondering if there is any one out there that has a deffinitive answer.

From my past and recent experience the HIF carb will foul the bulkead on all cars before 1992 (need clarification from people who have a HIF on a pre 92, what inlet and spacers are being used). I believe that all cars 92 on use the late subframe with two sets of engine mount holes as initialy thought for the injection manifold. This also means a slightly longer engine steady bar and gear shift remote housing mounts moved also.

What are peolpes opinions

Both injection and the HIF were introduced on the production line in 1992

[ian]

the spacer/heatsink is only about 1/2 inch thick, and you should also have a bracket that extends down and acts as a heat shield from the exhaust, and a bit that holds the cables on the top, have you got this? didnt you rob the carb off a scrappy. if so go back and see if its all still there?
if not pm minidave, he had one for me the other day but i found one before he came up with it.

anyone else notice jammy has such a nice way with words?

mini sprocket, ive got mine on a minispares inlet, dont know what make spacer but as i said above its only about 1/2 inch, with the k + n cone filter i can just about get my fingers behind it, not done anything to the bulkhead and its a 88.

ian

[binge]

the spacer/heatsink is only about 1/2 inch thick, and you should also have a bracket that extends down and acts as a heat shield from the exhaust, and a bit that holds the cables on the top, have you got this?

Yea, Ive got that heat shield thing. Just need the spacer and 2 studs.

Dan, The reason I dont have the other two studs is because My mini was a 998 and it had a standard 998 manifold hence the reason I only have Two Studs!

[miniboo]

the studs dont come in the inlet manifold

you have to use the ones out of the original manifold or get new ones

[RacingGreen]

Both injection and the HIF were introduced on the production line in 1992

The hif was 1st used in 90 when it was used on the rsp, they moved the engine forward by 5/8inch to solve the problem of it hitting the bulkhead, as you have said with the new sets of mounting holes.

[Sprocket]

Both injection and the HIF were introduced on the production line in 1992

The hif was 1st used in 90 when it was used on the rsp, they moved the engine forward by 5/8inch to solve the problem of it hitting the bulkhead, as you have said with the new sets of mounting holes.

Yes i am aware of this.

I didnt mention this as it may have confused things more than required. RSP is Rover Special Products, the Cooper was initialy a limitted run, and as you say fitted withe the HIF, it would have been at this time Rover realised that the engine would need moving forward to accomodate it. With it being RSP they were not 'off the production line' as such requiring the mods to make the whole thing work, off the line by a few of the production team. It wasnt untill 1992 that the whole range was revised dropping the 998 in favour of the 1275 throughout and standardising the build along the production line where this subframe mod would then become part of the tooling, and enabling fitment of the HIF and injection with a small amount of room to spare.

This why I am asking how any one else has managed to fit a HIF on a car originaly fitted with a HS pre 92 excluding the Cooper

[minimole]

i have an 85 city i have a hif44 but i bought the mini like it although it does look like the previous owner did some trimming on the bulkhead but i dont seem to have any clearance issues dont get me wrong it is tight very tight you cant get a ring spanner on the filter bolt ( i use a k&n by the way) but other than that i dont have a propblem i am pretty sure it is the priginal subframe as well. if you want i can get some pics tommorrow of my bulhead so you can compare it. although i dont have an engine in atm. but it might still be worth having a look as you might see somthing i have missed.

[binge]

Even it it did have a K&N on, it wouldnt be the Filter that is Hitting the Bulkhead, it would be the Bottom corner of the actual carb (The Resivoir / Float bowl)

Ive sorted my engine steady out so There shouldnt be any movement in the enigne. But if the carb was to hit the bulk head under engine brakeing or whatever, I think it would end up cracking the inlet or somthing.

Id rather just Give my bulkhead a Persuading with a Claw hammer!