Argh Shiz
#1
Posted 13 February 2006 - 06:39 PM
Gets it home and offers the carb up to the Inlet manifold and it appears I need a spacer and another 2 studs to affix the carb to the inlet. The throttle unit is fouling on the inlet.
BUT, After putting it on the enigne, It appears that if I do put the HIF44 carb on a spacer then onto the inlet, The carb looks like its going to be fouling on the Bulkhead too!
Not too fussed about the bulk head, If it fouls Ill cut a piece out of the bulkhead near that plastic bit what comes out anyway.
As for the spacer and 2 studs, Is this what I need, if So, Does anybody have them and able to post them QUICKLY! :'(
I to get this car running soonish. Tee hee.
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<|Ben|>
#2
Posted 13 February 2006 - 06:48 PM
And if the bulkhead gets in the way, persuade it with a hammer, don't be a dumbass and cut a hole in it!
#3
Posted 13 February 2006 - 06:53 PM
So bend the bulkhead yea, No cutty?
#4
Posted 13 February 2006 - 07:01 PM
You did buy a stage 1 kit for an HIF44 type carb didn't you? If you specified the carb then the manifold should have all the studs in it. You can try removing the studs from your standard manifold to use but that might be unsuccessful as they'll be pretty well seized in. It should all fit without bulkhead mods to be honest, it's a pretty standard setup.
#5
Posted 13 February 2006 - 07:42 PM
This seems to be a common problem and wondering if there is any one out there that has a deffinitive answer.
From my past and recent experience the HIF carb will foul the bulkead on all cars before 1992 (need clarification from people who have a HIF on a pre 92, what inlet and spacers are being used). I believe that all cars 92 on use the late subframe with two sets of engine mount holes as initialy thought for the injection manifold. This also means a slightly longer engine steady bar and gear shift remote housing mounts moved also.
What are peolpes opinions
Both injection and the HIF were introduced on the production line in 1992
#6
Posted 13 February 2006 - 07:47 PM
if not pm minidave, he had one for me the other day but i found one before he came up with it.
anyone else notice jammy has such a nice way with words?
mini sprocket, ive got mine on a minispares inlet, dont know what make spacer but as i said above its only about 1/2 inch, with the k + n cone filter i can just about get my fingers behind it, not done anything to the bulkhead and its a 88.
ian
#7
Posted 13 February 2006 - 07:57 PM
the spacer/heatsink is only about 1/2 inch thick, and you should also have a bracket that extends down and acts as a heat shield from the exhaust, and a bit that holds the cables on the top, have you got this?
Yea, Ive got that heat shield thing. Just need the spacer and 2 studs.
Dan, The reason I dont have the other two studs is because My mini was a 998 and it had a standard 998 manifold hence the reason I only have Two Studs!
#8
Posted 13 February 2006 - 08:00 PM
you have to use the ones out of the original manifold or get new ones
#9
Posted 13 February 2006 - 08:52 PM
Both injection and the HIF were introduced on the production line in 1992
The hif was 1st used in 90 when it was used on the rsp, they moved the engine forward by 5/8inch to solve the problem of it hitting the bulkhead, as you have said with the new sets of mounting holes.
#10
Posted 13 February 2006 - 09:48 PM
Both injection and the HIF were introduced on the production line in 1992
The hif was 1st used in 90 when it was used on the rsp, they moved the engine forward by 5/8inch to solve the problem of it hitting the bulkhead, as you have said with the new sets of mounting holes.
Yes i am aware of this.
I didnt mention this as it may have confused things more than required. RSP is Rover Special Products, the Cooper was initialy a limitted run, and as you say fitted withe the HIF, it would have been at this time Rover realised that the engine would need moving forward to accomodate it. With it being RSP they were not 'off the production line' as such requiring the mods to make the whole thing work, off the line by a few of the production team. It wasnt untill 1992 that the whole range was revised dropping the 998 in favour of the 1275 throughout and standardising the build along the production line where this subframe mod would then become part of the tooling, and enabling fitment of the HIF and injection with a small amount of room to spare.
This why I am asking how any one else has managed to fit a HIF on a car originaly fitted with a HS pre 92 excluding the Cooper
#11
Posted 13 February 2006 - 11:11 PM
#12
Posted 15 February 2006 - 12:44 AM
Ive sorted my engine steady out so There shouldnt be any movement in the enigne. But if the carb was to hit the bulk head under engine brakeing or whatever, I think it would end up cracking the inlet or somthing.
Id rather just Give my bulkhead a Persuading with a Claw hammer!
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