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[iDemonix]

Can't decide between

http://www.minispare...id=37818&title=

and

http://www.minisport...IBCB082439.html

Of course, the Cibie's are double the price so I'm assuming they're better - but could you justify that much more money on them? I've sorted my overheating, almost sorted my oil leak - next problem is the 'directional candles' on the front, also known as sealed beams (god they're bad).

I'm aware that either kit will require me to wire straight from the starter with a relay in place and an in-line fuse for each light - I'm fine with that, but I really want good quality lighting. My local mech recommends just sticking a HID kit in there but personally I'm not a fan (and I hate HID users constantly blinding me).

Also, since I'll be running spots + a small sound system, the alternator will at some point be upgraded from the standard one in my auto 998.

Cheers,
Dan

[minipete]

I don`t understand why you will need to rewire your headlights if you are swapping sealed beams for halogen headlights?You may have to alter the sidelight wiring only.Myself i would go for the wipacs you could always get some upgraded bulbs.Osram Siverstars are really good bulbs.

[iDemonix]

I heard it's because the halogens would use more power + eventually melt the indicator stalk wiring or the switch panel wiring, therefore you've gotta use a relay?

[Cooperman]

I fitted Wipacs in my Endurance rally Mini, then changed for Cibie's as they are much better. Then I fitted 100/80 w bulbs (available from Demon Tweeks). I upgraded the wiring and fitted 2 relays, one for each light. With the Cibie Super Oscar spots, also with 100 w bulbs the light output is fantastic.
In my '64 'S' rally car I have Hella H4 headlights and they, too, are superb with a pair of Super Oscars.

[iDemonix]

Had a couple vote for the Cibie's as great lights and the Wipac's as 'ok' lights. I'm leaning towards Cibie's at the moment as I've yet to hear a bad word about them, too bad they're double the price though

[Cooperman]

Here is my Endurance rally car with the Cibie lights, all with 100 w bulbs.

[Cerberus]

I fitted Wipacs in my Endurance rally Mini, then changed for Cibie's as they are much better. Then I fitted 100/80 w bulbs (available from Demon Tweeks). I upgraded the wiring and fitted 2 relays, one for each light. With the Cibie Super Oscar spots, also with 100 w bulbs the light output is fantastic.
In my '64 'S' rally car I have Hella H4 headlights and they, too, are superb with a pair of Super Oscars.

Its not road legal though is it?

You can't have more than 55/60W bulbs was my understanding for legal purposes, or rather, 55W on the dipped atleast, with no limit for the mains as no one will be looking at them.


I've got Quadoptics in mine, and they're not amazing, but they're not bad. I'm sure they're better than sealed beams (I wasn't using sealed for long enough to remember how bad they were), but when there's a car coming the other way, I can barely see anything. But on main beam, with two 50W spots, I can see fine. My lack of visibility on dipped may well be my eyes, which are not used to driving in the dark,

Edited by Cerberus, 10 January 2012 - 11:32 PM.

[thebullet]

I find the Quadoptics fine! great on full beam, on main they aren't too bad either. I just wired mine in, soldered them etc. No melting switch and had them over a year.

[Cooperman]

I fitted Wipacs in my Endurance rally Mini, then changed for Cibie's as they are much better. Then I fitted 100/80 w bulbs (available from Demon Tweeks). I upgraded the wiring and fitted 2 relays, one for each light. With the Cibie Super Oscar spots, also with 100 w bulbs the light output is fantastic.
In my '64 'S' rally car I have Hella H4 headlights and they, too, are superb with a pair of Super Oscars.

Its not road legal though is it?

You can't have more than 55/60W bulbs was my understanding for legal purposes, or rather, 55W on the dipped atleast, with no limit for the mains as no one will be looking at them.


I've got Quadoptics in mine, and they're not amazing, but they're not bad. I'm sure they're better than sealed beams (I wasn't using sealed for long enough to remember how bad they were), but when there's a car coming the other way, I can barely see anything. But on main beam, with two 50W spots, I can see fine. My lack of visibility on dipped may well be my eyes, which are not used to driving in the dark,

I guess it's not legal, but I doubt it would ever get checked. I mean, breaking the speed limit is not legal either, and you're far more likely to be caught doing that really .
When rallying I do like a lot of light down the road. At one time I had 130/100 w headlight bulbs, but my supplier ran out and I just replaced with 100/80.

[iDemonix]

Now I'm torn, damnit.

[iDemonix]

Do Cibie H180's and Wipac Quad's both use the same bulbs? If not how much is price difference?

Sorry, not good with electrical stuff!

[iDemonix]

I was working out cost of renewables do you have a preference between the two?

[iDemonix]

Ok I'm going to order the Cibie's, cost a fortune but sod it I want lighting as good as it gets. I want to order two bulbs with it though, MiniSport have two: H4 55/60W or they have H4 130/90W. I'm guessing the second ones are too powerful and possibly not legal, so I should go for 55/60?

[invisible_kid]

I fitted Wipacs in my Endurance rally Mini, then changed for Cibie's as they are much better. Then I fitted 100/80 w bulbs (available from Demon Tweeks). I upgraded the wiring and fitted 2 relays, one for each light. With the Cibie Super Oscar spots, also with 100 w bulbs the light output is fantastic.
In my '64 'S' rally car I have Hella H4 headlights and they, too, are superb with a pair of Super Oscars.

Cooperman wen u say upgraded wiring what exactly does that entail. Im going down this route in next few months and saving up for some hella spots. I want the best lighting. Also i need to replace my main light units anyone recomend something a bit more better quality thn the cheap ones off flea bay. Sorry for hijacking thread lol

[iDemonix]

Got my H180's on order, but still need to know what rate of bulb to buy and what kind of relay + wire gauge to get!