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[mini77]

Can a 1380cc mini engine, 1275cc mini engine or mg metro turbo go with with a mk1 magic wand? Thanks!

Edited by mini77, 14 January 2012 - 05:10 PM.

[Artful Dodger]

depends on how long you want the gearbox to last...

[mickeyd515]

Can a 1380cc mini engine, 1275cc mini engine or mg metro turbo go with with a mk1 magic wand? Thanks!

i would really recommend it after all the mk1 wand boxes are quite old so would require a rebuild part ,labour then will it cope with the stresses of a turbo or bored out engine i would probably go for a reconditioned a series box hope this helps.
also the a series box parts are easier to get when things go wrong

[mini77]

depends on how long you want the gearbox to last...

I know a standard magic wand gear stick would not last but can I upgrade the inards

[mickeyd515]

what age is the mini you are putting it into because if its say a mk3 mini the gearstick hole is in a diffrent place to the mk1 mini with the wand box

[Tupers]

I believe you can fit a magic wand shift mechanism to a 4 synchro box so you should be OK with high power. My Dad used to hill climb with a similar set-up.

Edited by Tupers, 14 January 2012 - 05:28 PM.

[mickeyd515]

what age is the mini you are putting it into because if its say a mk3 mini the gearstick hole is in a diffrent place to the mk1 mini with the wand box

sorry early mk3's 850cc ones had the wand box to but like late 70s80s ect

[mini77]

I believe you can fit a magic wand shift mechanism to a 4 synchro box so you should be OK with high power. My Dad used to hill climb with a similar set-up.

do I need to upgrade the inards of the gear box to cope with the extra stress?

[mickeyd515]

I believe you can fit a magic wand shift mechanism to a 4 synchro box so you should be OK with high power. My Dad used to hill climb with a similar set-up.

do I need to upgrade the inards of the gear box to cope with the extra stress?

i would say so

[Badchilli]

Hi i have a later type remote gearbox all syncro witha magic wand lever it uses a plate sililar to this bolted on the bottom of the remote .

[mini77]

Hi i have a later type remote gearbox all syncro witha magic wand lever it uses a plate sililar to this bolted on the bottom of the remote .

Sorry that went over my head :) So are you saying I can have a magic wand stick with a 1380cc engine with an upgraded gear box?? thanks!

[Badchilli]

This plate only works with the old type remote type change , this is what i have with a wand gear lever can take pic's of it tomorrow if it helps

[mini77]

Can I have a yes or no answer please as I'm not a techy :) ...can I still have a magic wand stick with a 1380cc engine with mods done on the gearbox? Yes or No? :) THANKS

[mab01uk]

The later type magic wand gear change as shown above (by Badchilli) can be fitted to any 4-syncro box 850/998/1275 (pre-rod change) so no reason why it won't be strong enough for a 1275/1380 engine with suitable gears. The only drawback will be the lack of a remote or rod gear change mounting to stabilise the engine rocking under hard acceleration, etc..............but you could try fitting other aftermarket engine stabilisors to compensate. The late type magic wand gearbox and parts or to convert are however quite rare to find these days as only fitted to some early Mk2, early Mk3 Mini's and early vans/pickups. (1967-74 approx)

"While the direct and remote change systems are very obviously totally different, they share the same gear selector mechanism inside the gearbox. From late 1968 when the gearbox went over from 3 to 4 synchromesh, they shared the same differential housing too - prior to that, the direct gearchange had its own unique diff housing with a small gearchange tower on it."

Diagrams here:
http://www.somerford... ... age&id=151

The later type magic wand gearlever 22A1382 is also different to pre-68, slot in ball is at top or side depending which.

Edited by mab01uk, 14 January 2012 - 06:21 PM.

[Robbie]

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