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[Pavel]

http://www.minispare....aspx?pid=38938

Look very interesting. Does anybody have anything to say about the 16 programmed modes, and in general about this dizzy?

It does look quite expensive, but when I figure that its only about 80 quid more than an aldon jobby, it's not too bad, seeing as from what is written I assume its got leccy ignition fitted to it as standard? So does that mean you throw it on, connect it to +12, and bobs your uncle? (assuming electric ignition coil fitted). Or do you still need a electronic ignition pack/module?

If it's got it all fitted it seems like quite a bargain to me, seeing as I'm far away and nobody around here can meddle with distributors for minis anyway, so having a selection of easily switchable advance programs would be the best thing for me

Cheers

[icklemini]

This is the bloke who designed it...

http://tdcperformance.ca/

TTFN,
Dave

[The Matt]

I am sure someone off the forum has one fitted. I think it may be '77leylandmini' but not sure.

[Jammy]

Yea, your right there MME. I haven't had any experience of them yet, would get one if I was doing a serious A series build. Sure you could import one cheaper though??

[who_loves_the_mini?]

does that mean you are able to swap between programmes or just able to select one that is the best easier than other dizzy's?

[rob3]

One thing to consider, you can do Megajolt for around half that much + rolling road which ud need anyway. And you can get the timing bang on everywhere, far better than any dizzy

[Sprocket]

But thats the point of this dizzy, it's an all electronic dizzy, not mechanical. crank position sensor, processor and spark distribution all in one neat package.

Im also sure that you can map this to your own advance curve if you wish

http://www.123ignition.nl/index.php

[Pavel]

Taken from website:

"The 123 distributor is NOT user programmable. The market has many products that allow user manipulation of the ignition advance curve. We are offering a plug-and-play solution to the user that does not want, or need, to get heavily involved in engine optimization."

It's a great solution. Nobody ever said that this was the perfect solution, but it's gettin pretty close and for people like me who live in a hole with no rolling roads in the whole country (there's one, and that's just where the chav's go to get printouts, the operators don't know what an engine is!), it's pretty nice having somethign that you can set up to ALMOST perfect yourself.

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They are very good, very easy to set up with a great range of pre programmed settings as standard. Comes complete with full instructions, and a guide to what you should be setting the dizzy too. Plus added bonus of no points!

[77LeylandMini]

ARGH! My ears are ringing!! I do indeed have the 123 ignition installed on my 1275 "A". No vac advance. It is quite easy to set up- its almost scary! Set the engine to #1tdc, out with the old in with the new, hook up the positive wire, rotate the dizzy till a green light comes on, hook up the neg wire, and youre off! The 123 ignition allows the engine to start at 0 dbtdc, once it fires it brings the advance up to 10' for ease of starting. Runs like a champ, I strongly recommend it. The curves are fun to play with too!

[dklawson]

Well, there you go.

I've mentioned this dizzy and it's web site in the Netherlands in previous threads. You've got 77LeylandMini's comments. If you want more information, pay a visit to the Mini Mania / Mini Spares web site and search the threads there. I'm aware of two threads that have run recently with users exchanging praise for the unit.

OK, it says "not user programmable". That's true the same way a "regular" dizzy isn't user re-curvable. What you do get with this product are 16 pre-programmed curves. There are guidelines to help you choose one that may be suitable for your engine build but you are encouraged to try several.

Strictly speaking, Marcel at TDC didn't invent the product, he helped develop the curves for the A-series engines. He's a VERY knowledgeable guy and probably knows more about Lucas dizzys than anyone else in North America.

Simon, I'm not one to question your pricing, but I would have thought you could/would have beaten Mini Mania's price on this. I was hoping that when/if you started selling the 123 that I'd order it from you like I do most my Mini parts. In this case it looks like the U.K. and U.S. prices are just about the same.

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I have also looked into that and reviewed them now I have a true "landed cost" £164.26+ VAT for Non Vac, £185.70+VAT for Vac. Website will show these updated prices very shortly!