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[minisilverbullet]

Swapping out my windscreen and rubber.

Ther was a little bit of rust on the bottom of the frame, nothing to mention really. I have cleaned the spots up down to the metal and applied some snake oil rust treatment, you know the stuff: you are never sure it works but you use it anyway!!! I will touch up the paint tomorrow.

I have some aerosol waxoil and was thinking of using it between the frame and the window seal! Any reason why I can't? It would also help lubricate the fitting.

Do people use any kind of sealant?

Next question is fitting the screen to the rubber, what can I use for lubrication, I don't want to use soapy water. And I ain't popping to the chemist for some easy glide of ky jelly. Would some engine oil work? Or some tyre dress ( maybe that also contains salts and water),

[Noah]

This will help aid any questions.

[minisilverbullet]

This will help aid any questions.

Yeah I saw that, not overly keen in splashing and trapping soapy salty water between and behind the rubber. Is a handy clip though

[Cooperman]

Best to use a sealant on the rubber seal to body and I use washing-up liquid for screen install.
You do need the proper tool to get the locking strip in otherwise it's very difficult and easy to scratch the paint when the screwdriver slips.

[Cerberus]

We've got some silicon lubricant spray, it's basically like WD-40 but says its for use more on rubbers etc, that worked a treat for us.

The tool, once I'd worked out how to actually used it worked nicely too, and the extra pair of hands was a big help,

[Tahiti Joe]

I just used GT85 on the rubber, much slipperier (if that's a word? ) than WD, once you get the hang of using the fillet tool thingy they go in easyyyy!

[Noah]

This will help aid any questions.

Yeah I saw that, not overly keen in splashing and trapping soapy salty water between and behind the rubber. Is a handy clip though

On the inside of the rubber it makes sense i.e.; where the glass sits in the rubber, but not onto the metal. That I agree with.

[minisilverbullet]

I have the tool, new filler strip, new rubber and waiting for shiny new Monte Carlo style heated screen to be delivered.

[firstforward]

Best to use a sealant on the rubber seal to body and I use washing-up liquid for screen install.
You do need the proper tool to get the locking strip in otherwise it's very difficult and easy to scratch the paint when the screwdriver slips.

Years ago when I did mini screens often I too only used washing up liquid but I have since found out it contains salt and is not at all recommended, I have a couple of screens to do soon and need to find an alternative......

Ingredients

INCI Name

• Aqua
• Sodium C14-C17 Sec Alkyl Sulfonate
• Sodium Laureth Sulfate
• C 12 - 15 Pareth - 2
• Cocamine Oxide
• Cocomidopropyl Betaine
• Sodium Chloride
• Parfum
• Citric Acid
• C12 - 14 Pareth - 3
• Sodium Sulfate
• Dimethylol Glycol
• Sodium Hydroxide
• Cocamidopropyl Dimethylamine
• CI 19140
• CI 42090

Fragrance Ingredients which require listing under EC 648/2004 on Detergents

INCI Name

• None

The above formulation is for products manufactured between the following dates
18/03/2011 - Present Day

Edited by firstforward, 09 October 2012 - 08:15 PM.

[Cooperman]

You only use the 'Fairy Liquid on the Rubber/Glass/Locking Strip, not on the rubber to body, so it's not an issue. If a small amount runs down onto the paintwork, just wipe it off. That's how I've always done it for years with no problems.

[Noah]

Or just get friendly with a AutoGlass man

[maccers]

Which is what I done last week! New screens and new rubber following a shell re-paint and new headlining. I tried for ages to get the front screen in using a combination of my old rubber seal, new glass, then old glass, new seal. Gave up in the end and got a local windscreen fitter in to do the back and front.

They also used a sealant between the body and seal, and also the glass and the seal. The "special tool" i was sent with the insert was also the wrong size, never actually got round to using it though.

[firstforward]

You only use the 'Fairy Liquid on the Rubber/Glass/Locking Strip, not on the rubber to body, so it's not an issue. If a small amount runs down onto the paintwork, just wipe it off. That's how I've always done it for years with no problems.

I have just watched that video, I was taught to install windows differently. First place the screen in the rubber seal, can also prior to fitting line the window seal with that black sealant (forgot its name)....its a bit like dum dum. Once in place put a 5mm fine rope around the window rubber in the channel that is to accept the car window metal flange, we used to put fairy liquid in that channel with the rope and offer it all up to the car window aperture making sure the rope ends are dangling inside the car. Then from inside the car pull the rope and as it releases itself from the rubber it would pull the rubber over the cars metal flange and head lining etc. To be honest it could all be done pretty quick but best done with 2 people, I would think much quicker than the video. As for removal, we just used to remove the filler strip and lay back on the front seats with both boots on the screen and press it out, but again it needed 2 people, one to catch it as it popped out.

Now you can see why I said washing up liquid is not to be used, I guess I am responsible for many a rotted scuttle panel!!!
Has anybody done it my way? it seems so much easier from the video, but until I try it both ways I will never know.

[minisilverbullet]

What kind of sealant, should i use? Silicon based or?

[tiger99]

You probably do not want silicones anywhere near your paintwork, in case it even needs retouching. The slightest trace of silicone contamination wreaks havoc with any attempts at respraying. That is the only objection that I can see to their use. They do not damage glass, rubber or metal.

What about this:
http://www.directcar...nt---black.html

Googling for windscreen sealant will find many more.

Edited by tiger99, 10 October 2012 - 04:21 PM.