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#1 adi vvc clubman

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 08:53 PM

me and 2 friends are currently building a 1979 clubman estate and we're fitting a mgf vvc in the back of it, we're wanting to keep the engine running on the original mgf subframe and keep the original front subframe, yes i know it will be wide but thats the look we are wanting,
do the mgf subframes fit onto the mini subframe mounts ? we've been told there basiclly metro subbys and metro subbys fit minis is this true ? what work do we need to do to fit the subbys ? any posts or pics or write ups we can use ?
me and my friends are pretty good with mechanics but not experts we all have our bits that are better than someone elses, weve all had minis in the past but this is something different so any advise is appreciated :)

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 09:57 PM

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you basically need to re design the rear end to accept the mgf running gear. This a massive job and by no means simple
a few mgf subframe rear engine cars here

http://www.16vminicl...ead.php?t=29301

http://www.16vminicl...ead.php?t=19600

and a van
http://www.16vminicl...ead.php?t=26628

You need to do some serious reading, as the mini shell was not designed to be rear wheel drive. There are no major supports once the area is cut out for the subframe

Edited by charie t, 16 October 2012 - 10:00 PM.


#3 adi vvc clubman

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 02:53 PM

so if i decided to go fwd what subframes do u reckomend i use, front and rear ? still using the vvc as its a great engine and iv already got it

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 04:06 PM

don't forget to get a BIVA test

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 04:20 PM

ahh the good old BIVA!

with regard to subframes, a custom one would be best, and I dont know about the size of a vvc but if you can get it in the front without any body mods you stand a good chance of avoiding the BIVA headache, I am currently undergoing a project for my motorsport engineering degree which is designing a front subframe for a mini to fit a VTEC and I am aiming to try and fit it in a clubman without body mods.

but it depends what the car is for, if its a track car which wont touch the road stick with mid engine but if its destined for the road have a big read up on the law and whats allowed, and the easiest way is front engined, there may be a company making a subframe to fit i dont actually know but a good bit of research should see you right. :)

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 05:24 PM

pity you live so far away mate or id let you use my clubman to base it on, lol, vvc's are loads cheaper than vtec's im suprised more dont use them, id like mine to be used on the road as iv got v5c for it, i see what i can find

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 06:14 PM

don't forget to get a BIVA test

Don't forget to ask what country op is from or what his intensions are

vvc's are loads cheaper than vtec's

Faster on the 1/4 miles, smaller and lighter
The metro/mgf subframe is a very common easily converted approach if you are looking to save money. You get bigger brakes too

Edited by charie t, 18 October 2012 - 06:20 PM.





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