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[ricekikr]

Doing a complete respray of the Mini. How do you guys do the jambs (mainly the b-pillar)?

Was planning on doing the rolled tape trick, but then how would I do the B-pillar. The top part is half exposed.

I really don't want to paint the doors/hood/trunk separately, mainly because I want the color to match perfectly.

[corrado vr6]

Pull the door rubbers off and mask from there?

[JonnyBMX]

<sub>as above just go round the ouline with masking tape then paper across and masking tape it down again just keep the masking tape off the bits you want to paint

as im not on a pc where phtotobucket works i cant see if these are the right ones, but thats how i masked my mini up

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Edited by JonnyBMX, 16 November 2012 - 08:39 AM.

[ricekikr]

Car is fully stripped for paint. Doors/hood/trunk off car. Painting skill - amateur.

I'm currently hesitating on painting them separately, want to make sure the paint matches perfectly (specially the doors).

Do all Mini's get painted with doors off? Does paint match perfectly?

[ricekikr]

Paint is metallic, nothing special. But everywhere I read, says, a little variation in pressure/temperature/angle, will change the shade slightly. Thus my hesitation in painting the car in parts.

Edited by ricekikr, 16 November 2012 - 02:42 PM.

[myredmini]

Can you not just paint them off the car but at the same time as you do the shell?

[corrado vr6]

my spraying skill was amature, and i sprayed metallic blue with all the above panels removed and hung up sprayed them at the same time and angle as the shell ie: left to right so to get the same shade, the paint matches perfectly :)

[Miniowner123]

paint door shuts first, fit doors and then paint the whole lot, would be the only i would think

[ricekikr]

my spraying skill was amature, and i sprayed metallic blue with all the above panels removed and hung up sprayed them at the same time and angle as the shell ie: left to right so to get the same shade, the paint matches perfectly :)

Thanks for the tip. Did you do the whole shell first then doors or rear quarter then door then front quarter.

paint door shuts first, fit doors and then paint the whole lot, would be the only i would think

Worried about the b-pillar, when the door is fitted, part of the upper b-pillar is half exposed. So it's either get tape marks or get overspray all over.

[jack_marshall]

What colour are you spraying?

Light high metallic colours are likely to look different if painted seperately, although it can be done with the right technique and keeping all the variables as close as possible such as; temperature, thinner speed, amount of thinner, spraying distance and overlap, flash times and coats.

Darker, less metallic colours such as blacks are easier to match painting parts seperately.

If you are worried I would prep the shell and all panels so they are ready.

Basecoat your door shuts and back of all the panels.

Give the base an hour or two to completely dry, nib off with 800 and grey scotchbrite.

Hang all your panels on the car.

Mask up.

A couple coats of base around the back of the panels and door shuts.

Close doors.

Basecoat the outside.

Then when you clearcoat, do your shuts and panel backs first, then the outershell.

Ive got to be honest though, without good technique and slow thinners and activators it can be difficult to clearcoat everything well doing it this way.

[corrado vr6]

I had all the panels hung up, I had already mixed my paint enough to do 2-3 coats of base coat on all the panels and shell (so 10ltrs) I then started on all the panels and moved onto the shell, I've had no trouble with doing silver blue and purple metallics this way,
The only time I've had an issue is if you run out of paint and you have to get more mixed up, so make sure you have enough and if you don't use it all you will have enough for touch ups

[ricekikr]

Dark metallic blue, almost like tahiti blue.

What colour are you spraying?

Dark metallic blue, almost like Tahiti blue.

Interior was just painted, every coat changed the shade slightly. 1st coat bluish green > ~2 coats makes it blue > ~3coats dark blue > 4+ makes it turn purple blue. Which worries me a lot.

I had all the panels hung up, I had already mixed my paint enough to do 2-3 coats of base coat on all the panels and shell (so 10ltrs) I then started on all the panels and moved onto the shell, I've had no trouble with doing silver blue and purple metallics this way,

Thanks for the info =)

[jack_marshall]

What are you putting the blue over as that colour needs to be put over either an exisiting dark colour, a black primer or a black ground coat.

If you dont do this coverage will be difficult and you could end up with patchness or primer edges showing through.

Also, too much basecoat applied for coverage can make your clearcoat sink in and die back losing its shine and glossy apperance.

[ricekikr]

What are you putting the blue over as that colour needs to be put over either an exisiting dark colour, a black primer or a black ground coat.

Light green primer. Can I simply tint the primer using the blue paint or is primer tinted differently?

EDIT:

Tried the ff:

White base - Too many coats needed before blue is blue enough - 7+ coats
Black base - Color went from almost black to violet in 3 coats
Light green primer - Color almost close enough to what I like - hoped for zero violet/purple hue, still has a little violet/purple hue at some angles..

Edited by ricekikr, 20 November 2012 - 10:19 AM.

[JonnyBMX]

id suggest painting it with the doors off, if you use the same mix of paint i.e. use the proper mixing jugs etc then the color wont change providing you use the same paint mix aswell, you cant just go and buy more as it can be slightly different.

the trick is to start in a corner and end in a corner to keep all surfaces nice and smooth