Body Touch Up ?
#1
Posted 03 May 2006 - 04:46 PM
As far as a body touch up, by this I mean getting rid of any rust, filling in any small holes, what would be the process and what tools, materials ect would I need.
I am a 17 year old wanting to re build a Mini (Leaving the engine alone for now) which I will be totally new to, so please don't make sarcastic comments e.g "I can't believe you don't know how to do that" ect
Cheers for giving me the time of day
Dan
#2
Posted 03 May 2006 - 06:16 PM
Rust holes and filler are not good and Mr MOT will find it with his hammer
#3
Posted 03 May 2006 - 09:38 PM
Cheers
Dan
#4
Posted 03 May 2006 - 10:26 PM
#5
Posted 05 May 2006 - 02:18 PM
For example I had some bubbling at the bottom of my doorskins. An assault with the wire brush and drill combo releaved some very small holes - rally just pinholes on the n/s and three pea sized ones on the o/s.
Now I wasn't going to get my welder out for those (especially as I'm not too experienced with it - i'd either end up making bigger holes or warping the whole skin!)
So a bit of ally mesh and filler later, along with lashings of Metal Ready, POR 15 and Waxoyl and they look pretty good and should remain rust free for a couple of years.
So long as your rust holes aren't too big or within 30cm of anything remotely structual, a bit of filler is OK - just make sure you've got ALL of the rust out, and regard it as a temporary repair rather than a permanent solution.
Having wasted much time with filler in the wrong places on old bangers when I was around your age though, a word of advice - before you even think about tarting it up and making it look pretty, get underneath and clean up and rustproof the important bits first. I had a nicely filled wing on my first car, but it ended up not having a floor!
#6
Posted 05 May 2006 - 06:12 PM
Though I agree with Mini Sprocket and Pikey, I'd add that it really depends on the extent and location of the rust.
For example I had some bubbling at the bottom of my doorskins. An assault with the wire brush and drill combo releaved some very small holes - rally just pinholes on the n/s and three pea sized ones on the o/s.
Now I wasn't going to get my welder out for those (especially as I'm not too experienced with it - i'd either end up making bigger holes or warping the whole skin!)
So a bit of ally mesh and filler later, along with lashings of Metal Ready, POR 15 and Waxoyl and they look pretty good and should remain rust free for a couple of years.
So long as your rust holes aren't too big or within 30cm of anything remotely structual, a bit of filler is OK - just make sure you've got ALL of the rust out, and regard it as a temporary repair rather than a permanent solution.
Having wasted much time with filler in the wrong places on old bangers when I was around your age though, a word of advice - before you even think about tarting it up and making it look pretty, get underneath and clean up and rustproof the important bits first. I had a nicely filled wing on my first car, but it ended up not having a floor!
And after a while you will get this.
Its much more senseble to fix it first time than have to do it right in the end after bodging it the first time
#7
Posted 05 May 2006 - 06:26 PM
paint bubbles when moisture gets under and causes rust, usually from the back of the panel... so basically the rule is, unles sits surface rust on a bare piece of metal etc, then it has holes, as the water has to get under the paint somehow.
#8
Posted 05 May 2006 - 06:29 PM
if theres bubbling under the paint, there are holes !! simple as that !!
paint bubbles when moisture gets under and causes rust, usually from the back of the panel... so basically the rule is, unles sits surface rust on a bare piece of metal etc, then it has holes, as the water has to get under the paint somehow.
Theres filler under there too so its been done before
#9
Posted 05 May 2006 - 06:33 PM
just get a wire brush on the rust and take it back to the metal and see what the real damage is..
#10
Posted 05 May 2006 - 07:23 PM
New panels, but of course, bottom of the door is well gone because when it was bodged the first time round the weather strip was damaged and not touching the window along its length alowing the rain free access to the inside of the door. Doh.
#11
Posted 08 May 2006 - 06:28 PM
#12
Posted 09 May 2006 - 12:02 PM
As I said in my earlier post, my efforts with the doorskins aren't intended to be a permanent repair. Object of the excercise is really just to arrest the rust as much as possible - appearaces are very much a secondary consideration. Having ground all of the rust out I was left with a few small holes. After treating the surrounding area with Metal ready and POR15 a bit of filler was used - to keep the water out basically.
Having then thrown a bucket of Waxoyl into the doorskin (and yes, clearing the drain holes afterwards) I think / hope that it should be good for some time before it needs proper attention - i.e a new doorskin.
Delaying the inevitable perhaps, but that is precicely the idea - until somebody comes up with a cure for rust!
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