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#1 tomtaylor1994

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 02:28 PM

Hi all, I fitted my 5x12 wheels yesterday and noticed that they scrub on full lock.

 

My dad and I had a go at trying to bend the arch lip where it catches, so now it does not scrub on full lock when stationary.

 

However, today when I was driving I noticed that the wheels still catch when moving.

 

Should we try to bend/hit where the wheels catch or is cutting the arch the only option now?

 

Many thanks,

Tom



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 02:42 PM

Where is it actually rubbing? The bottom front corner of the front panel? It is strange that 5x12 wheels are doing this, what is the offset and what profile tires are you using?



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 02:56 PM

Where is it actually rubbing? The bottom front corner of the front panel? It is strange that 5x12 wheels are doing this, what is the offset and what profile tires are you using?

Yeah, the two front wheels are rubbing where you said :/

They're ET+16 or +14, can't remember, with 165/60 R12 tyres on.

I'll try and get a photo if that helps!



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 03:06 PM

I've got some 5x12's that rub. I have either raised the suspension or trimmed a small section off the front of the wing.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 03:08 PM

Yeah a photo would help. What was the offset of the wheels, and profile of the tires before? If your profile is larger, and you have a smaller offset that could cause the wheels to rub. In this case, unless you're willing to remedy the problem with different wheels/tires you will have to slightly cut the front panel to give more room. This is pretty standard procedure for fitting larger or wider wheels to the mini. If cutting isn't your thing, and you're handy with a welder you could make a wheel arch roller.

 

Something like this

http://www.talkaudio...de-arch-roller/

 

However it is a lot of work just to roll the corner of your front panel.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 03:30 PM

Here are a few photos to help:

 

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It's looking like I'll have to cut it, but I'd like a second or maybe even a third opinion on this!



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 03:44 PM

2 things to check
Are there standard teardrop front subframe mountings fitted? Effectively these pack out the front valance increasing the clearance. Also you can insert shims to pack it out further
http://www.minispare...|Back to search
Are the tie bars standard ones and maybe bent. If adjustable what is the Caster angle? Have it checked and maybe lengthen the tie rods to move the wheel further back.
Finally consider raising the suspension trim height.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:26 PM

2 things to check
Are there standard teardrop front subframe mountings fitted? Effectively these pack out the front valance increasing the clearance. Also you can insert shims to pack it out further
http://www.minispare...|Back to search
Are the tie bars standard ones and maybe bent. If adjustable what is the Caster angle? Have it checked and maybe lengthen the tie rods to move the wheel further back.
Finally consider raising the suspension trim height.


Everything suspension wise and subframe wise on the car is standard, and it's a 1998 MPI.

I think I'm going to get up early tomorrow and get the angle grinder out unfortunately.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:43 PM

 

2 things to check
Are there standard teardrop front subframe mountings fitted? Effectively these pack out the front valance increasing the clearance. Also you can insert shims to pack it out further
http://www.minispare...|Back to search
Are the tie bars standard ones and maybe bent. If adjustable what is the Caster angle? Have it checked and maybe lengthen the tie rods to move the wheel further back.
Finally consider raising the suspension trim height.


Everything suspension wise and subframe wise on the car is standard, and it's a 1998 MPI.

I think I'm going to get up early tomorrow and get the angle grinder out unfortunately.

 

Make sure you shave enough off first time around as you will find yourself having to go back to do it again as I have had to do today, Hopefully I have now got good clearance this time ;-)



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:49 PM

I had exactly the same problem with my superlights, same wheels, same tyres. I trimmed the wing slightly, however I will need to raise it up slightly as it still catches as my cones have sagged :(



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 06:26 PM

One tip, leave plenty of clearance. after you can cut away the section that leads from the wing, down to the front panel, you will have a relatively sharp edge. all you would need is one nasty pothole, or to take a speed bump too fast with your wheels turned and you could cause some damage to your tyre.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 06:53 PM

One tip, leave plenty of clearance. after you can cut away the section that leads from the wing, down to the front panel, you will have a relatively sharp edge. all you would need is one nasty pothole, or to take a speed bump too fast with your wheels turned and you could cause some damage to your tyre.


Thanks for the advice! I'm going to try and form a new lip to eliminate any sharp edges, although I'll have to cut slots or V shapes into the edge in order to do this.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 06:54 PM

I had exactly the same problem with my superlights, same wheels, same tyres. I trimmed the wing slightly, however I will need to raise it up slightly as it still catches as my cones have sagged :(

My cones are pretty good I think, and I was a bit disappointed when these wheels scrubbed the arches, means I haven't really been enjoying driving for the past couple of days :/

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 08:13 PM

 

One tip, leave plenty of clearance. after you can cut away the section that leads from the wing, down to the front panel, you will have a relatively sharp edge. all you would need is one nasty pothole, or to take a speed bump too fast with your wheels turned and you could cause some damage to your tyre.


Thanks for the advice! I'm going to try and form a new lip to eliminate any sharp edges, although I'll have to cut slots or V shapes into the edge in order to do this.

 

 

I would recommend this. However the easiest was I've seen to do is to actually make a new lip with new sheet metal welded to the edge. As folding it could be troublesome.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 09:29 PM

 

 

One tip, leave plenty of clearance. after you can cut away the section that leads from the wing, down to the front panel, you will have a relatively sharp edge. all you would need is one nasty pothole, or to take a speed bump too fast with your wheels turned and you could cause some damage to your tyre.


Thanks for the advice! I'm going to try and form a new lip to eliminate any sharp edges, although I'll have to cut slots or V shapes into the edge in order to do this.

 

 

I would recommend this. However the easiest was I've seen to do is to actually make a new lip with new sheet metal welded to the edge. As folding it could be troublesome.

 

Thanks for the vote of confidence :) However, I don't have the skills or the means to weld :/






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