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#1 MiniMonty

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:53 PM

Hi all,

 

a while ago I chanced upon some rear inertia belts from a car younger than my '89 Mayfair and bought them.

Looked into fitting them and found the brackets on sale at most places (but £80 no less !!!) so put them

away in a cupboard.

 

Now the kids are bigger, not on booster seats and the static belts in the back are causing major headaches.

So...

 

Do I REALLY need the brackets or can I just weld / fix / bolt the belts in the back so they work or is this 

a) very dangerous

b) illegal

c) an MOT fail thing

d) all of the above

 

All and any advice / experience much appreciated

 

Best wishes

Monty



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 12:21 AM

You can retrofit belts, the IVA manual would be a good place to see what's required in general terms. I'd have thought a 1989 car would have the anchor points present, or are they only for static belts?



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 12:27 PM

Yes, the guidance in the IVA manual would be appropriate. That will result in fitting the proper mountings. Anything less is dangerous, and a MOT fail if the tester can see that it has been done improperly. But as for legality, only a court could decide. If you don't need rear belts, because of the age of the car, it is hard to say that improperly fitted belts would actually be illegal.

 

However the insurance companies don't need a court ruling to give them the absolute right to refuse to pay any claim if there was an undeclared "material fact", as it is well founded in insurance law, and if they found improperly fitted belts they would be fully within their legal rights to refuse any claim. So you would have to tell your insurer, who would either refuse cover altogether or charge a greatly increased premium if they heard of belts that were fitted improperly.

 

Frankly, for £80, compared to the consequences of not having them, and the risk of having an accident, I would not hesitate to fit them properly. NO OTHER INVESTMENT OF £80 WILL INCREASE SAFETY BY SO MUCH. Consider that, in a frontal accident with the rear passengers not belted, they are likely to be thrown forward and kill themselves and the front seat occupants too. The annual fatality rate plunged when wearing rear belts, when fitted, was made compulsory.



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 12:49 PM

If you mean the SMK01 kit from Somerford, I would expect your Mini to already have much of it fitted. It's require some welding if it doesn't, but it'd be wise to confirm your belts fit the same. I know there were aftermarket rear belts that located  inertia reels on the parcel shelf, they'd need different reinforcements - they're also not the best for anyone whose shoulder is higher than the seat back.






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