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[miniman_7]

Hello all!!

 

Firstly, I have been a Mini owner for the past 16 years, and generally I like to think I know my stuff about them. I have rebuilt many from scratch and have my current perennial mk1 project on the go (see my sig below for a linky).

However when it comes to mokes I'm a little rusty.

 

I need some thoughts and advice from moke-peeps and peeps that have experience with potentially unregistered cars

 

Let me tell you about the advice I need.

 

 

Today I got a phone call from my Uncle asking me what I knew about mokes as a friend of his (who I believe is a trader) had taken ownership of one. This friend was looking for info as to its potential resell value so he could decide whether or not to just weigh it in at the scrappy (shock horror!)

 

Now before I continue, I have not yet seen pictures of it, so cannot confirm that it is an actual moke and not a kit version (scamp etc). I'm told the condition is "looks ok" and "its a nice red colour". also the engine wont start.

However for the purposes of this question, I am assuming that it is a real moke, and in a reasonable but needing restoration condition.

 

Now, the amount of money that this guy will likely want for it has got me interested (seems too good to say no, thats all I will say at this point!). He is supposed to be emailing me pics over the next couple of days to see if I want to come over and have a look at it.

 

There is some question as to the registration in the UK of the car, as it is believed to have been imported and stored without registration.

It has no documentation. I'm unclear at the moment as to the status of a VIN number or plate (lack of will turn me right off it)

 

 

Now the documentation thing should be a massive NO for me, but the value is saying it might be worth the risk!

 

So here's my questions:

 

1.What sort of value do mokes in need of restoration (but not complete rot-boxes) go for?

 

2. Assuming it has a VIN, how do I either:

a) Find out if it is already registered in the UK assuming no number plates on car and no V5

b) Go about registering it in the UK? What would be the full process? Would I need to rebuild it and go for a IVA? etc......

 

3. Anything less obvious I should be aware of?

[Guess-Works.com]

First of all there are numerous types of Mokes...

 

English Mokes, Australian Mokes, Portuguese Mokes these are what you could call the "real" mokes, then there's the Cagiva mokes which were made in Italy. 

 

There are also Chinese Moke shells which hit the country a few years back but fell foul of the IVA, and could only be legitimately used to 'reshell' an existing moke.

 

Then there are the kits including

 

Scamp, Jiminy, a Fiberglass Mini Moke ( Can't remember the name ), Nomad ( utility vehicle type kit ) and sh*t loads of others...

 

Bottom line, until you know what it is it has no value at all..... and without any form of documentation it'll be a nightmare to get it on the road.

 

But, the most valuable of the lot is the English moke

[mab01uk]

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